In this powerful episode of Shit That Goes On In Our Heads, G-Rex and Dirty Skittles sit down with B-Town to discuss the complexities of mental health crises, personal experiences with trauma, and the vital importance of reaching out for help. Together, they share stories of overcoming the stigma, recognizing the signs of bipolar disorder, and navigating life's most challenging moments.
Highlights:
- B-Town shares her eye-opening journey as a friend witnessing mental health struggles for the first time.
- G-Rex opens up about their battle with depression and the life-saving impact of the 988 Lifeline.
- The group discusses the importance of mental health resources like mobile crisis units and helplines, breaking down the barriers that often keep people silent.
- A candid look at how setting boundaries and practicing self-care can be crucial for both those experiencing mental health issues and their support systems.
If you or someone you know is struggling with mental health, remember: it's OK not to be OK. Don't hesitate to reach out for support:
- United States: https://988lifeline.org/talk-to-someone-now/
- Canada: https://988.ca/
- Worldwide: https://findahelpline.com/
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Music.
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Hey there, listeners. Welcome to Shit That Goes Under Our Heads,
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the podcast where we normalize conversations around mental health.
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That's right. I'm Dirty Skittles, and alongside my amazing co-host,
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you, Rex, we are here to share stories and tips from our incredible guests.
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Each episode, we deep dive into struggles and triumphs of mental health,
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offering practical advice and heartfelt support.
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Because no one should feel alone in their journey. Join us as we break the stigma
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and build a community of understanding and compassion. passion.
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Tune in and let's start talking about the shit that goes on in our heads.
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Music.
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Three, two, one. Welcome back to another episode of shit that goes on in our heads.
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I'm G-Rex with my amazing partner in crime, Dirty Skittles. And today we have
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an awesome guest. Welcome, B-Town.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Glad to be here.
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Nice to meet you. nice to meet you too i
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love the natural light that's coming in right now it's amazing and
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the plants nice yeah it's for
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our listeners she's sitting in a beautiful like sunny
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room i'm sitting in my little hovel
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and i'm in a dungeon basement how did
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you guys look so professional you look so professional it's
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like i feel like wow you know this is great if
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you'd listen to to us an hour ago no we are
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not professional well i'm a listener to
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the podcast so i understand and i have a history with
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you know g-rex so yeah we i would just expect nothing more
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but that's what i that's what we love about you yeah when we
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can when we do it organically we're fine but you know if we need
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to record a sponsor ad or a trailer or
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whatever 17 takes 17 takes
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and we're both laughing at the end of it so you know i feel bad for our editor
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he's like really you couldn't do this in two takes no so but they take the best
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out of the 17 takes and make magic out of it so i'm okay with it it works literal magician.
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He is a magician because, you know, you put the two of us together and be like,
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you want us to read from a script? Nope.
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That's not going to work. Or it's not going to sound good if you do it, right? That's hard.
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Right, right. There's a balance there. And we haven't quite gotten it mastered
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yet, but we're trying every day.
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We have not. So when you listen to the host read ads, just know that it took
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us half an hour to get that two-minute slot.
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Oh, I think about them. I think I just heard one on the skincare one,
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and I loved that one. and I've heard several of them and I smiled the whole time.
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Oh man, the bloopers on that one were hilarious.
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I think normally G-Rex is the one that breaks where she's just laughing so hard
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but nobody can hear her because she's pulled away from the mic.
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Right, it's just quite... Yes.
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But this time I was laughing so hard. I was wheezing because the bloopers are just ridiculous.
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I wonder if we could release our bloopers. We should release those bloopers
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because it really took us forever to record that.
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And it is laden with the word fuck.
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Check with your sponsors before you do that, but they might enjoy it.
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They might have a sense of humor, you never know.
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I know Heather would because she saw the bloopers before we released the official ad.
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She said she laughed so hard she was just dying. We were too.
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We're idiots. We literally are a bunch of fit heads.
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So, B-Town, what do you want to talk to us about today?
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Well, I don't know. I think originally it was just I've had kind of some experience
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as I'm getting into my old age that were really kind of shocking.
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I've been very lucky, right? You know me as far as that goes.
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Like I've realized as I get older too that,
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I haven't experienced a lot of trauma. I'm lucky in that sense.
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But sometimes it doesn't make me as understanding to others as I would like to be.
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So apparently, the universe knew that and threw some things at me over the last
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couple of years that have allowed me to learn a lesson.
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So I thought I'd share some of those things with others. And one of the main
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things was it's all around mental health.
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I'd never... I had experienced that.
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G-Rex and I do have some experience with that in our family history and different
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friends and that kind of stuff.
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So not completely ignorant of that.
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But I had something with a close friend and experience that just really,
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really highlighted the fact that I didn't have a lot of knowledge in a certain area.
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Where would I go to get help if someone was going through a major mental issue?
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So... Yeah, I remember when you were going through that and just how hard it
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was for you because you didn't know where to go to get help.
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Yep. Yep. And also the secrecy. And that's come up with a second situation that happened.
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The secrecy around this and the shame and the, you know, no one wants anyone
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to know, no one wants to out anybody.
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But then that leaves the people left to help in a really uncomfortable situation.
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So luckily, of course, so, you know, I mean, I was just so blessed to have some
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friends who I could call.
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I mean, I was desperate. I'm calling them at midnight my time and really worried,
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concerned about a friend. We couldn't get a hold of her.
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She was in just this manic state, but I knew how depressed she had been.
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That's what I knew of her. She was just so, so depressed. So I had never seen
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this manic stage that she was in, which She was putting herself in harm's way
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in a downtown area by herself.
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Talking with kind of unsavory people. And again, in a really bad manic stage.
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But so luckily, I had a friend who has a doctorate in psychology and is a therapist.
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And she's like, where you live, do you have a mobile crisis unit?
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And I'm like, I have no freaking idea if I do. But I'm like, I'm sure I do.
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But I was able to find it. And so it's kind of similar. I think it's similar to a 988.
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But for me, it was a resource for me. So I wasn't in danger. I wasn't hurting.
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But some of my friend was, right? So this mobile crisis line,
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I mean, was just phenomenal.
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Because I think we wanted to do an intervention, but we had no idea how to do that.
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And so I called this crisis line and they just were lifeline to us, for sure.
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And just a huge, great resource as far as how to handle the next couple steps
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that we went through. Yeah, I remember when you were going through that and
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you had told me about that mobile crisis line.
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And so that's when I went out and put some resources out onto our website.
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You know, there is like 988 in both Canada and the U.S., but there's also a website.
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It's called findahelpline.com, and it lists out every single resource that's
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available in every single state, almost all cities, and around the world. Yes.
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Because these phone numbers and these emails or websites are not highly advertised.
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No. And I didn't know mobile crisis units. So that's even something...
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My chair, I'm like, there's a mobile crisis unit that you can contact.
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But you can call them on the phone or they can come to you. But you just call
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them and they'll provide the resources.
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So I would call and I'd explain what I thought my friend was going through.
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And then they could even recommend doctors that could see her that had availability in the next couple days.
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They recommended an actual kind of like a bit of an intervention where we would go to her house.
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And it happened in the next 24 hours, like very quickly, they could mobilize.
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And we were at her home doing kind of a mini intervention that didn't go well, by the way. But we tried.
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But I think it was a wake up call for her. So that was effective.
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And then it got all the different pieces. She was keeping everybody very in our compartment.
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And this This is somebody that I've known for 30 years.
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But she had safely put the ex-husband in his own little area,
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which was easy because I did not like that person.
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So I was fine to make him the enemy, the villain, but had kept other friends
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in different compartments.
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Well, this brought everybody together. And so that was really interesting.
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And then we could help each other through this.
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Are you comfortable answering questions about this?
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Yeah, yeah. Okay. So you have this friend, and you've known them for 30 years.
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And at some point, it sounds like it comes to a head where you realize there's
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an issue. You're trying to help.
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Before that happened, were you aware of struggles that they had?
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Yes. And what were they? So definitely it was around, I would say when I first
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probably realized was when she had children, she had bad postpartum.
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So that, so she, I knew about some mental struggles that she had.
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So that was an indication. And so I had seen her very depressed.
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Like, if you've been around anybody, right, it is just heart-wrenching. Right.
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They're just so down energy-wise. It's just so depressed.
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You can feel like they have given up.
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Right. And so at the time, she's around these two toddlers and whew,
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that was hard to see, right? Right.
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These are practically little beings that I consider like my nieces, right? So very close.
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So I was familiar with that. And so I had experienced that for, let's say, 15 years.
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Years but and the good news is she had been
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able to manage it so she was on an antidepressant and
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fairly open about that too you know which was good i just think again the more
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we talk about these things that was those are good and so i did know that but
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it had been under control for maybe 15 years and then the medication stopped
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working right and then she and then i experienced
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her, again, very just depressed and then very just on a different level because
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now she could not figure out how to get regulated.
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So she was really trying. And I mean, she was trying everything,
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a lot of progressive new things, anything from...
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I always call it the wrong thing though, but just there's some very progressive
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things on that are controversial too, to try to figure this out.
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And she was having such a hard time, such a hard time trying to to figure it
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out. That was very hard to watch too.
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Because it's hard to even help someone do that.
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I mean, because even the professionals don't seem to be able to help her through
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that. So yeah, I definitely had seen this coming.
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But I was not prepared for the manic stage.
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Because of different reasons, she
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was kind of self-medicating with some marijuana and that kind of stuff.
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And I'm just not into that. So that was not the side I saw of her.
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And you know we really think now that's what it probably
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pushed her into a manic psychosis honestly so she's
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not someone who needs to screw around with that kind of stuff especially
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when she's on other stuff and has so many other things that recently she has
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been diagnosed with so for someone how you admitted in the beginning and said
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that you had never really you called yourself lucky or never really dealing
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with trauma before so now you have this friend for 30 years that's a a pretty long time.
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And seeing them kind of go through something, how did you handle that? Like, how did you react?
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Well, I don't think I handled it well. You know, looking back on it,
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again, the secrecy. So I'm like, who can I talk to? Right?
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Because, you know, so I'm talking to my mom, I'm, you know, trying,
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I'm talking to my husband, obviously, my husband has had some experiences.
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He dated somebody who had was bipolar and bipolar.
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And he was just really seeing things and really talking to me about things.
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So definitely talked to them. I was now connected with the ex-husband.
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So I was able to talk with him and seeing that in a whole new light.
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And then I had other friends around at the time when this incident kind of blew
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up. I did have other friends there.
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And so that was good. And then again, I knew this other good friend of hers
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that she... So kind of in a separate... Again, she kind of categorized us.
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But we did know each other and we were friendly. friendly and so she kind of
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entered in and so we did have like a small team to kind of navigate.
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What was going on and so that you
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know that was very helpful yeah did it
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affect you like in your day-to-day oh it
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did affect me yeah you know so my you know my
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addiction is probably food and i think that's in
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in my family history is kind of like the food issue so
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kind of that way yeah very high stress
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level you know not and then all the guilt that
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goes along right because i have a family so i'm like i'm taking
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away from my family to go help this friend but
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of course i want to because she doesn't have a lot of people to help
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her so she's single at the time she
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was kind of estranged from her family a little bit so you
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know i felt like i needed to be there i wanted to be there but
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then i felt the guilt of being away from my you know my child
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my family that kind of thing right holding the
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weight and so is your friend like a
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true introvert or extrovert and so that's
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a good question that is a really good question because at
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first glance i'd say extrovert right but she was definitely somebody who wants
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her wanted her own time right so you know i would say what wasn't a complete
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negative when they when she went through a divorce she wanted to have her own
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time you know she's very into herself and her own time honestly looking Looking back now,
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I would also say a narcissist or some narcissistic tendencies for sure.
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So yeah, that's a complicated... Because again, a lot of people I think would
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just say, oh, extrovert. But it's a little more complicated than that.
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Because I know just for myself as an extrovert, we are really good at hiding our depression.
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And what people see is a completely different person than how we see ourselves.
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So I can see some of that probably going on in her life too.
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Like, yeah, y'all are going to get to see this part of me. But on the other side of that.
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We're just done, right? We've gotten to a point where we just,
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we don't have any place else to go.
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Yeah, yeah. And I think, so it was interesting though, because she would let
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me see the depressed side and I don't think she recognized the manic side.
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So again, I want to say that too.
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I think she was just as surprised of what she had gone through.
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But looking back, we could see different things, you know, of course, so hindsight's 20-20.
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So you're looking back and you're going like, ooh, I was in a manic stage when
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I was going through this. It just was kind of positive.
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You know, she didn't wreck her car or spend a bunch of money.
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So it wasn't really negative, but she was probably in a manic stage during this
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time. Do you know what I mean?
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But I didn't see it as manic. And I don't think she did until looking back on it.
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And I think then it progressed when she just, her meds stopped working.
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She started self-medicating.
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And then I think, you know, just didn't, in my opinion, doesn't want to address.
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What the core problem is.
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I'm not saying I know what the core problem is, but there's something there
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that, you know, I think we've all learned. I bet you guys have too.
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If you don't deal with it, it is going to deal with you. Yeah. Oh, girl.
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Oh, yes. Yeah. It gets to the point where you have to deal with it. Yep.
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Because you're sitting in your room on Christmas Day going, like,
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what the fuck am I going to do now? Yep. Yep.
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You will get your attention one way or the other. It does.
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And, you know, I just thank God for that glimmer of hope. And,
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you know, the fact that, you know, 988 picked up the phone that day. Yep.
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And that my wife was home. And, you know, and then I had dirty Skittles to,
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you know, laugh with. Yeah.
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We all deal with our depression in different ways and our mental health.
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And I will say that, like, my two healers were sharing my story and laughing
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about stuff that we probably shouldn't laugh about. It made the days go better.
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Yep. Yep. Oh, absolutely. You know, and I'm such a sharer. So I'm an extrovert.
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And that's one thing I've kind of had to understand too.
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So I overshare, right? You? An extrovert? Never.
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So then when somebody wants to be secret, secretive, so again,
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I got another individual that's going through some stuff.
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And this same friend is trying to keep it secret because she knows that this
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other friend is a very private person.
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I get that, but my tolerance for that is getting really low because that secrecy
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is such a burden on friends. It's a burden on her now.
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It's a burden on her friends trying to help her with her animals that are now homeless.
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You know what I mean? I am so over that part though now, but I'm such an over... It's easy for me.
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So I'm trying to understand other people who don't want all their business out there and don't...
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If I do something wrong, I usually talk about it. you know
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like I one time I keyed a boy an ex-boyfriend's car I talked
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about it for the next three months because that's my therapy so
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that I don't fucking do it again you know what I mean whereas
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other people might never say anything and I'm like oh my
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god during this dark hour I keyed his car you know
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he deserved it so you know he's the fuck him
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what is it no just kidding I have risen above and maybe not do that maybe I
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will and then do I want to do it again let's not do it okay so that's me and
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i do think that's good therapy like honestly for me that works but so i have
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to understand that's not going to work from other people but i'll tell you
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i i just am over i want to talk about it you know and and she's still trying to hide.
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Or keep it secret or i don't know or keep it to herself do you know what i mean
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i don't want to say hide you know but i'm kind of done with that now and even
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like she had a someone who came to visit this other friend who was in the ICU.
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And that young friend who had this person in her life, I mean,
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for this other person who's kind of laying in ICU, she's got cirrhosis, something's happened.
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We don't even know what got her into the hospital because she was kind of estranged
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from friends for this short time.
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But this other young friend who knows her is like, oh, I didn't even know she
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was an alcoholic until now.
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And I'm like, that is the problem. We just acted like nothing was wrong.
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And now this person is sitting in the hospital bed in ICU. None of us know how she got there.
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And then my friend who'd gone through the depression is sitting there going,
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oh, let's be quiet. Let's not talk about it. I'm like, really?
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She's fucking in an emergency bed. When are we going to start talking about this?
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Because we're not helping her. And I don't think we should keep doing the thing
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we did for the last 15 years and keep her secret. That didn't help anything.
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Secrets can be dangerous. They can be very dangerous. But it's not my story
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to tell sometimes, so I do have to watch that.
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In this case, I'm trying to navigate that a little bit and talking about it
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in a way that hopefully still keeps their trust and honors their...
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You know, their privacy as well. Their journey, right?
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Yeah. And not like everybody is willing to share what they're going through. Of course.
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But sharing what you're going through might help somebody, might unlock those
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doors for somebody else who's going through the same thing.
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And you might give them tips and tricks of how to get past what you're going through right now.
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At least that's what I did. But we all know that I'm a fucking extrovert anyway.
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Anyway, like I would talk to the homeless dude on the park bench, right?
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Yeah, it doesn't feel good to give them like, right?
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You start talking about it and I've talked about it with some other friends
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again who like don't know her. So now I can kind of chat a little bit.
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Then they tell me their stories.
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Oh my gosh, their daughter is bipolar.
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Oh, she had no idea about this crisis line. I'm like, put it in your phone and
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you can put the app in your phone in case you ever need it.
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Like that's the type of stuff that I want to, you know,
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definitely be talking about when i can because when you share your story
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and i guarantee g-rex and you guys have both experienced that
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you start talking and someone you hear it twice back
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yeah for sure and you
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know i think it's important that we keep talking about it right let's normalize
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these conversations yes now more than ever mental health and talking about it
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is so important there's There's so much shit going on in this world and keeping
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that to yourself does you zero good.
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Like I will tell you, I'll tell you my own story.
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It doesn't do anybody any good and it just makes you more and more depressed.
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It's damaging. It's damaging. Day I called my name today was the most relief I'd felt in years.
00:21:06
And I, like I said, I'd probably been depressed my entire life,
00:21:09
but that last quarter of 2022 was the hardest. this was even harder than when
00:21:15
my mom passed away because it was a lot.
00:21:17
It was a lot of little things that really built into something big.
00:21:21
But once I opened up and started sharing my journey.
00:21:26
Letting people know that there are resources out there and that they don't need
00:21:30
to be feel so lonely in their own journey, because for me, that's how I felt. I was terrified.
00:21:35
Yeah. But, you know, once I started opening up and, you know,
00:21:39
that's how our podcast got started. It started from a very dark place.
00:21:43
But, you know, now we get to talk to people like you or, you know,
00:21:48
we talked to we've talked to so many people about their own journey and how
00:21:52
they finally found the strength to talk about it.
00:21:55
Because I find that it's a lot easier to tell that story over a microphone than
00:22:00
it is face-to-face, right?
00:22:02
Yeah. Well, and I've loved listening to you guys' podcast because I've heard
00:22:06
so many different things that have really impacted me and stayed with me.
00:22:10
And so, again, just talking about that and hearing just a lot of different things.
00:22:15
You guys had one person who came on and talked about alcohol and alcoholism.
00:22:18
And that was really eye-opening to me. And I have recently really cut down my drinking.
00:22:23
Drinking you know i think for a long time i thought alcohol was my
00:22:26
friend and that might have been how i you know
00:22:29
something that you said dirty skittles on
00:22:32
a different one that was earlier on and you said you know doing self-love or
00:22:36
am i being indulgent and boy has that stuck with me and many people have said
00:22:42
to me oh i'm so it's so good to see how you can kind of regulate your drinking
00:22:46
and i'm like because that thought is in my head am i doing self-care and being loving to myself?
00:22:52
Or am I being avoiding or indulgent?
00:22:55
And I'll tell you, it's really changed. For a long time, I thought alcohol was
00:23:00
my friend. I thought I was a happy drunk.
00:23:03
I could stop. I could go days without a drink. But man, was I a binge drinker.
00:23:08
And I did some things that were quite embarrassing.
00:23:13
And I just am like, I'm not doing that anymore. So I love your podcast because
00:23:16
Because it just brings to light a lot of different things to think about.
00:23:21
I always want to be learning and trying to do better.
00:23:24
When you know, when you learn things, you can do better.
00:23:27
And so I want to always be doing that too. So your podcast, I think,
00:23:31
I'm sure has just impacted...
00:23:33
Hundreds of thousands of people, maybe millions of people, right?
00:23:36
At this point. So that's great. Don't say that. Dirty Skittles gets all anxious.
00:23:40
Oh, that's right. That's right. Nevermind. No one's listening. Yeah.
00:23:44
Dirty Skittles, no one cares. No one remembers what you said.
00:23:47
But I will remember that. Like when you guys were saying that,
00:23:51
I'm like, I think that's something we have to be careful of. It's a slippery slope.
00:23:56
It's a slippery slope. And I think it, to some degree, you bring it back because
00:24:00
you said something just now that I was like, Like, oh, I'm really curious from
00:24:04
your perspective, right?
00:24:05
Like you had mentioned that this friend was really good at compartmentalizing
00:24:10
different people, right?
00:24:11
So for someone like you who's an extrovert and you want to talk about things
00:24:15
and you're struggling to navigate through that.
00:24:19
How did you feel meeting other people who had a different version of this person? It was enlightening.
00:24:27
It was enlightening. Again, this was where I think a little bit of narcissism came in.
00:24:32
She, just looking back, she was really good about keeping us in our place.
00:24:37
And I made it very easy. So again, with the ex-husband, I was not a fan.
00:24:41
He knew I was not a fan. And yet we had to come together and be on a team.
00:24:45
And then this other friend of hers, we both recognized it because that was the
00:24:51
person she would do drugs with.
00:24:53
She would smoke marijuana, do gummies, do all that kind of stuff. That was that friend.
00:24:57
And then, but then I felt so bad for her. Because that manic was not a very nice version.
00:25:03
The depressed version was not nice, but it fit me, right? I was comfortable
00:25:08
with the poor, oh, poor friend, I want to help you.
00:25:11
I was probably not the person who was going to be the help during the manic stage, right?
00:25:16
Well, or I didn't see the manic stage because for her, things were...
00:25:21
I think the marijuana, they told her flat blank, it was taking her into the manic stage.
00:25:27
Stage. But for that poor friend, I felt bad for her because she then was used
00:25:31
to this. And she was like, oh, I've seen this before.
00:25:34
I'm not surprised. And I'm like, really? Because I was shocked.
00:25:37
Me and my other good close friend, again, same situation, knew her over 30 years.
00:25:43
We had never seen that side.
00:25:45
So we were freaking shocked.
00:25:47
We even said, so we saw the situation unravel at the same time.
00:25:52
And I literally said to her, I'm like, if you had not been there,
00:25:55
if I had not been there, we would have talked to each other out of this.
00:25:59
We would have said, no, you must have just imagined it. Oh, you're just a goody two shoes.
00:26:04
This was not, you know what I'm saying? We both saw it and then had other people,
00:26:08
like seeing things, this is batshit crazy.
00:26:13
She's completely naked in front of other people. She's talking nonstop.
00:26:18
She hasn't slept for 24 hours.
00:26:22
She's, I mean, I could go on and on. on the really weird stuff she was doing.
00:26:27
That again, by itself might be a good time, right? But all together,
00:26:30
it was really disturbing.
00:26:33
I mean, really disturbing. She was describing a family member who was bipolar
00:26:37
and me and the other friend are looking at each other like, yeah,
00:26:41
like acting like, okay, you know.
00:26:45
Yeah, and then she proceeded not to sleep for like the next two days.
00:26:50
But I mean, really, like again, if we had not been there, or we might've just
00:26:54
passed it off as a one-time thing.
00:26:56
But when I talked to this, you know, that new friend, he's like,
00:26:59
oh no, I've seen this for years. And I'm like, you're kidding.
00:27:02
You're kidding. Years, wow.
00:27:05
Another friend similar to her had said to me about 10 years ago,
00:27:10
when she had kind of entered into the group through, through my friend,
00:27:14
she said to me, you know, you're such a good friend of hers.
00:27:17
I can't believe you and your friends don't do an intervention. Right.
00:27:21
And I was like, what? I was like, fuck you. You didn't know her?
00:27:27
You? What? Why would you? Seriously, that is my reaction.
00:27:31
And now looking back, I'm like, oh, B-Town, you're such a dumbass, right? I'm like, what?
00:27:36
I just didn't want to see it. I didn't see it.
00:27:40
Yeah. I was shocked. Well, you only saw the part that she wanted you to see. Yeah.
00:27:45
And I was good at that part. I was great at my part. And so were all of us until
00:27:51
we were like, oh no, we're done, you know? Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask.
00:27:55
Is this person getting help now?
00:27:58
Yeah, so the good news is during her journey, right?
00:28:02
She did, she's so desperate to try to figure out what's wrong.
00:28:05
So I, you know, she really was trying to figure it out.
00:28:08
And luckily was diagnosed with some things that really, you know,
00:28:11
made a difference. PTSD, you know, ADHD.
00:28:15
I definitely think she's, and I don't even know if she knows what those things
00:28:19
are. I don't know what those are, like the PTSD.
00:28:21
I don't know where that's from, but it's looking, I kind of,
00:28:24
you know, it helps me understand a little bit better.
00:28:27
And then I think, so I do think she's finally regulated.
00:28:30
And I know for a time she was stopping the self-medication.
00:28:34
I'm a little concerned she might've picked that back up, but there's nothing I can really do on that.
00:28:41
My question, where I was going with this is that I'm curious if,
00:28:45
you know, Are you having to learn who she is again?
00:28:51
I think yes. Oh, yes. Yes. And then that does affect things, right?
00:28:56
So I don't think it's ever going to be the same, unfortunately.
00:29:01
I'm definitely seeing her through a different lens. I hope not because she went
00:29:06
through what she went through. So I hope it's not that.
00:29:09
But I am aware of which compartment I'm kept in. You know what I mean?
00:29:16
And so I want to be a good friend. I want to be there for her.
00:29:21
I hope I always am. But it has changed things.
00:29:24
Yeah. That's got to be difficult because...
00:29:28
My immediate thought, and it's probably wrong, but my immediate thought was
00:29:31
like, at some point, you would choose you, yourself over that friendship,
00:29:39
right? Like, yes, now I know.
00:29:41
Yes, no, I will. And, you know, my husband definitely is a big fan of that.
00:29:47
And I'll tell you, the other friend that went through this, so there was three
00:29:49
of us, you know, the ex-husband, that other friend, she blocked her.
00:29:52
Like she is no longer she had done so
00:29:55
much damage to see because she saw the manic side that i
00:29:58
think was more damaging to her and because
00:30:01
she had some issues too she was
00:30:04
really triggered by all of that she had
00:30:07
to block her she's i would say they were toxic
00:30:10
very toxic so that could not happen anymore so
00:30:13
that is done the ex-husband though has to interact
00:30:16
because of the children and I he's one person
00:30:20
I really have a new look at him in a new light I think
00:30:23
he did what he thought he needed to do of course for the kids
00:30:26
we really tried to encourage him that he needs to take
00:30:29
care of himself and stand up for himself and the
00:30:32
kids are now at an age that they don't need that anymore because he's
00:30:35
just was really taking advantage of now
00:30:39
looking back really taken advantage of so it
00:30:42
definitely has changed some things yeah so
00:30:46
what are like three things that you learned
00:30:49
that you never knew about bipolar that you wish other people would know oh gosh
00:30:55
yeah well it doesn't have to be this is a good one it doesn't have to be super
00:31:00
super high super lows okay so for example her the family member that has bipolar
00:31:06
never really experienced and slows.
00:31:09
So, but he had the condition. And then when it went out of control,
00:31:12
then he had a really bad low.
00:31:14
Like literally like, you know, walking out of an establishment naked,
00:31:19
posting crazy crap on social media.
00:31:21
That's an indicator too. So that might be another indication is when you're
00:31:25
starting seeing these, a lot of out of character behavior, posting on social
00:31:32
media or oversharing, right?
00:31:34
So even though she was an extrovert, I'm talking some of this stuff was just rambling.
00:31:39
Oh my gosh. And the texts that she would send to us. I mean, I'm talking like a page.
00:31:46
And actually, we had one of our friends print some of the stuff just so we could
00:31:51
kind of show her if we needed to.
00:31:53
Some of the stuff that she was saying, just crazy. So that's one thing.
00:31:58
It doesn't have to be super high, super low.
00:32:02
I think you got to watch your family
00:32:05
history you know so be aware of that
00:32:08
yeah and then and just the damage it
00:32:11
can do right financially so financially she some
00:32:14
decisions were made that were not great decisions and i
00:32:17
don't know if she's recovered from those and that can look different ways to
00:32:21
you know hanging around with new friends that who you know that's i don't think
00:32:27
i don't think the rating here is is appropriate for some of the things i can
00:32:30
tell you about that i mean i'm talking really you know So salacious.
00:32:36
So very salacious, you know, very salacious. So that kind of stuff,
00:32:40
you know, just really changed.
00:32:42
But it wasn't, in some ways, she was super more open-minded than me.
00:32:46
So you know what I mean? Some of that stuff, again, I kind of...
00:32:49
Justified. If she wanted to do it to work for you, who am I to say,
00:32:53
right? You know what I mean?
00:32:55
But man, it was doing damage. And I think she knew it. And that's why she kept
00:32:59
us in compartments. Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:02
Yeah. That's the thing too. I don't know. But, you know, still just,
00:33:06
I'm glad I was, I'm glad I knew the history, some of the history.
00:33:10
And, you know, just again, because not knowing exactly what she was going through,
00:33:14
I think some things that I did wrong that really brought things to a head that
00:33:17
I wish I wouldn't have done.
00:33:19
I did it because I was trying to protect myself, my other friends,
00:33:23
put in boundaries, you know, those kinds of things. Yeah.
00:33:26
But I think they were very hurtful to her at the time. Very hurtful.
00:33:29
And can you give an example of one? Well, you know, the night this all came
00:33:33
to a head, you know, we were just like, nope, we're not doing what you want us to do.
00:33:38
Nope, you can keep saying it, but we're not going to do it because that's how
00:33:41
she would do it. Like we would say, hey, I'm not coming to your house. Yes, you are.
00:33:46
Yes, you are. I want to see you. I want to see you. Two friends are in town.
00:33:50
I want to see you. And we're like, no, not doing it.
00:33:54
Again, if we had known exactly where she was, would we have,
00:33:58
you know, been such theathists?
00:34:00
You know maybe right but then i
00:34:03
always say to my other friend i'm like and she feels really guilty about that
00:34:06
i'm like you know i think it needed to come to a head and something needed
00:34:09
to give anyway you know and so
00:34:12
it wasn't it was kind it was pretty bad you know like there was you know some
00:34:19
legal ramifications some interactions with police that ensued but luckily she
00:34:24
didn't hurt herself she didn't hurt anybody else and i think she considers at
00:34:28
her rock bottom i'm a little
00:34:30
worried because she still has a house.
00:34:32
She still has a car and now she's employed again.
00:34:35
She still has a relationship with her children. She still has a relationship with us.
00:34:40
And, you know, so I get a little concerned, especially when I like saw her recently
00:34:46
and I think she's, you know, doing gummies again, doing self-medicating when
00:34:52
she told me that she was not going to do that.
00:34:53
So I'm a little concerned. Yeah.
00:34:57
I guess when you had mentioned that you guys tried to do an intervention and
00:35:02
it didn't go well, what brought you to that point?
00:35:05
We were scared to death. So she had this incident, right?
00:35:09
Then she disappeared like the next night. So within about three days,
00:35:13
she just did some stuff that scared the shit out of me and some friends.
00:35:16
But again, I had never seen her in a manic stage.
00:35:18
But even the woman who had seen her in the manic stage, she was scared.
00:35:24
Okay. Okay, so she found herself in a downtown urban area, no shoes, only her backpack,
00:35:32
talking to a known meth dealer, bragging to him about how much money she had
00:35:38
and how she wanted to tell him. She wanted to be the white savior to this person.
00:35:42
If you hear, you know what I mean? So that's the kind of stuff she's doubting in a downtown area.
00:35:48
So she disappeared a couple of times. One time we knew she, one time she was
00:35:52
downtown town and luckily called a friend to come get her.
00:35:55
But by the time, and it's again, salacious, lots of details,
00:35:59
but they went to go pick her up, this other couple that kind of knew her ancillary
00:36:04
through some kind of work.
00:36:06
Well, she disappeared, but luckily people knew who she was. They're like,
00:36:10
oh, that white lady? Oh yeah, she's right over there.
00:36:12
If someone had not helped them, they would not have found her.
00:36:16
She was off on some other area of this park downtown, they would have never found her.
00:36:21
Okay. So that was one thing. Okay. Then she disappeared another time.
00:36:24
She brought a neighbor's car, went downtown and again, kind of disappeared for about 12 hours.
00:36:30
That is the night I called my friend. And I was like, what the hell do I do? What do I do?
00:36:35
And so she told me about the crisis unit. And she's like, you guys probably
00:36:38
need to do an intervention.
00:36:39
Well, when I talked to the ex-husband, he's like, what the hell does that entail?
00:36:42
Right. You know, what do you get? Right.
00:36:44
Those, but he was all for it. Oh, and by the way, I do want to say he,
00:36:48
the kids are at an age where he was actually kind of talking to the kids about
00:36:51
this and saying, are you okay if I do this? Yes, she needs help. She needs help.
00:36:56
You know what I mean? So we were getting confirmation that it was a good idea
00:37:00
because then I found out some things that I just don't think...
00:37:04
I think the home life had really kind of... Some things had really escalated there too.
00:37:08
Luckily, it's not small children, but still they're children and having to see this was very scary.
00:37:13
So that's when it all came to a head is we're like, the ex was open to helping
00:37:17
us. We were all there together. other.
00:37:19
And I'll tell you, if we hadn't all been there together, I don't know if this
00:37:23
would have happened. We all would have blown it off.
00:37:25
Or the ex might've been just too overwhelmed to even think about what he could
00:37:29
do. Or again, he's the ex, right?
00:37:30
So again, if he had come to me, I would have been like, fuck you.
00:37:34
You're an idiot, right? I would have already told other people that they were crazy.
00:37:38
No, she doesn't need help. You're going to tell me she needs an intervention.
00:37:42
I'm her friend for 30 years screw you you don't
00:37:45
know her boy was i wrong okay so
00:37:48
that's kind of so some things that we thought you know
00:37:51
we were afraid she was going to hurt herself afraid she was and then
00:37:54
financially i think we knew too some things were going on you
00:37:57
know she was jobs kind of coming
00:38:00
and going but pretty stable on that she was again able to compartmentalize and
00:38:04
i think for the most part but you know so those things were just bringing it
00:38:10
to a head and then we saw an opportunity you gotta know when she's home so we
00:38:14
knew she was home so we acted right away to try to do something yeah.
00:38:19
And it did not work out. It really didn't. They, you know, again,
00:38:23
looking back what I would have said with that crisis mobile unit,
00:38:26
they're not going to commit her. I wish I had really made that clear.
00:38:29
Hey, they're just here to talk to you. They're just here to,
00:38:32
you know, just see what they can help you.
00:38:35
Now, I think she was afraid though, that they might commit her because she was acting a fool.
00:38:40
But she wasn't going to hurt herself, I don't think.
00:38:42
I don't think they would have had any basis of unwillingly taking her away,
00:38:47
looking back on it. So I wish I would have emphasized that more to her that
00:38:52
we're just trying to help you. We just want you to talk to somebody.
00:38:55
We just want you to hear about more resources.
00:38:58
She's really resistant to checking herself into any kind of mental place because
00:39:04
locally where we're at, they've had a really bad reputation and she'd been warned
00:39:09
that would probably not be a good situation.
00:39:11
So that was tough, but we were trying to put some things on the record though,
00:39:15
I would say too, you know what I mean?
00:39:17
Sure. to try in case it progressed that we could show that we had tried yeah.
00:39:23
Oh go ahead I was going to say I can't imagine I obviously don't know the state
00:39:29
of mind somebody like that would be in but coming home and seeing that there's,
00:39:34
official people there I probably would freak out oh she was like oh I'm out
00:39:39
oh yeah she's like how can you bring him into my house.
00:39:42
Oh yeah we were just oh we were the devil Yeah.
00:39:46
But this was good. As we walked out of the house and we're with two professionals,
00:39:50
oh my God, I just could have almost kissed this woman.
00:39:53
She's like, just so you know, we would have never been successful.
00:39:59
You can't get through to anyone in a manic stage.
00:40:01
So there's maybe G-Rex, my third lesson of bipolar.
00:40:05
You're not going to get through someone in the manic stage. You've got to,
00:40:08
unfortunately, probably got to wait till they come down.
00:40:11
And I said, well, how long is that going to take? She's like,
00:40:14
honey, three days, three weeks, three months.
00:40:18
You don't know. And I'm like, oh my God. And I mean, we just were defeated.
00:40:22
When she said that, I mean, the ex of their friend was just like,
00:40:27
and I think they could see that.
00:40:29
And then the other lady said, no, but you did. You've done what you can.
00:40:32
She's like, and don't give up. Here's your next steps. And so she gave us the next three steps to do.
00:40:37
And she's like you don't give up you know so do you remember what those three steps were,
00:40:44
well it was possibly to take legal action so going to the courts and doing in
00:40:49
kind of just a statement saying that where you're afraid that they're gonna
00:40:53
hurt themselves or that they're not making good decisions but i learned you
00:40:57
know you have to do that within 48 hours and we were past the 48 hours of the incident.
00:41:03
But we tried, we went to, we did go and we made an attempt and the judge at
00:41:08
the time was like, no, but again, a very positive experience there.
00:41:12
They're like, you know, the assistant, the judge came out and talked to us and
00:41:17
said, you know, the basic thing it's no because you didn't meet the 48 hours.
00:41:20
So you got to meet the 48 hours. Keep on trying.
00:41:23
Sometimes it takes, you know, unfortunately though, that's the problem with
00:41:28
our mental system, right?
00:41:29
Like I think that, you know, a lot of the people who have done damage and gone
00:41:34
out and shot up different locations, their family members knew and they might've
00:41:40
had 13, 15, 16 of those actions taken.
00:41:44
I think it's just some kind of, it's like something you go through the court
00:41:47
to kind of report they're not in a good way.
00:41:50
But unless they're immediately going to hurt themselves or hurt others,
00:41:53
they can't do anything. The court does not do anything.
00:41:56
So unfortunately, but those are the things she's... And then of course,
00:41:59
they're like, take care of yourself.
00:42:01
They're like you guys keep supporting each other keep
00:42:04
just don't give up you know
00:42:07
so that that was helpful yeah
00:42:10
so what did you do for yourself for self-love and self-care while you were going
00:42:16
through that because I can only imagine that knowing you that it was really
00:42:22
like hurting you deep down oh it was horrible I definitely talking about it
00:42:27
so that's good so I'm talking about it to to my husband.
00:42:30
I'm talking about it to my mother. I'm talking about it to a couple friends.
00:42:33
So just really talking about it, but then getting away. So setting boundaries.
00:42:38
So there was a time where it's like... And that was the other...
00:42:41
It sounds bad. The other reason we did the intervention, we knew we needed to do it soon.
00:42:45
But I did have a trip out of town in five or seven days.
00:42:50
And I took that trip. And it was actually... It was a great trip with my husband.
00:42:55
And so definitely made sure I got away to still just take care of the things
00:42:58
that I needed to to take care of me and my family.
00:43:00
But just talking to people, talking to the people that I trusted that knew about
00:43:06
the situation was really helpful.
00:43:09
The crisis line I did, I talked with them several times. They were very helpful.
00:43:13
So those were the things that I did to help myself. What I stopped doing that
00:43:17
I hated though, I stopped exercising. I stopped watching what I was eating.
00:43:21
That's where I really... I had made some progress in some areas and I really...
00:43:26
Literally. And so this was probably,
00:43:29
Gosh, I have to remember when this was, but I think it's been almost a year.
00:43:33
And it took me a year to get back on track with some personal things that I wanted to get back on.
00:43:39
So I feel like I'm back on track with that. Well, you look good.
00:43:43
Well, thank you. I mean, I feel good. I feel good. I'm exercising.
00:43:47
I'm just trying to be active. I'm just trying to watch what I eat. I got a little girl.
00:43:52
I started late. So she's in middle school.
00:43:56
So it's like I feel like I have to stay in shape so that I'm healthy for her
00:44:00
you know so I hear you hey Dirty Skittles maybe she can help you with your owl
00:44:06
situation hell of a transition why?
00:44:11
I don't know I just thought about that before we talk about owls I was gonna
00:44:17
say be telling that for me I relate to what you're saying like if things are
00:44:24
weighing on you mentally,
00:44:26
it's so much harder to stay on
00:44:29
track with the things that you know you need to do
00:44:31
for you to be healthy yeah so i mean it
00:44:35
sucks right but i don't think anybody has quite figured out how to turn that
00:44:40
off and just always be you know no oh yeah absolutely you know and i so i can
00:44:46
see like the things that i do that are not good it's trash television anything
00:44:50
you know no yeah my My husband knows when,
00:44:53
wow, you know, things are going on.
00:44:56
He's like, you're watching Housewives of any city, state, or nation.
00:45:02
Well, you know, what's wrong with B-Town, right? He's in a dark place, you know what I mean?
00:45:06
But again, you know, that's nothing compared to what some other people are going
00:45:10
through, you know what I mean?
00:45:11
And so it has tried to make me really understanding of other people,
00:45:14
but still understanding of myself too. For sure.
00:45:17
But, you know, understanding of what some other people are going through and
00:45:20
that, you know, they're trying to deal with it the best way.
00:45:24
You know, a lot of family stuff in a friend's life, like just really repeating
00:45:28
a lot of things from generations before her, you know, Doing it just that way.
00:45:33
First of all, ignoring it, not talking about it, all of that kind of stuff.
00:45:37
So that's why I really try to talk about it. I try to talk about it to my family.
00:45:41
I let my little girl hear some conversations.
00:45:44
I talk with her about some things. Like the recent friend that's going through
00:45:47
some stuff, I'm like, let's talk about it.
00:45:51
She can't handle the alcohol. She can't have one drink.
00:45:56
She doesn't have a good support system, unfortunately. Unfortunately,
00:45:59
you know, she might have, you know, issues with money or gambling or different
00:46:03
things that she's doing that really have caused damage to the relationship.
00:46:07
So she doesn't have the, you know, the relationships like me and your dad do. We get along great.
00:46:12
We compliment each other. You know, we're, but I want her to know that not everyone
00:46:16
goes through that, you know, and has that support system.
00:46:19
But I want her to be able to talk about it too. Like, like he asked me questions.
00:46:23
So she kind of asked, she's like, well, why is that person, you know,
00:46:26
in the hospital? And I said, honey, you know what?
00:46:28
It's so natural to be curious and to ask that question, but it's none of my business.
00:46:34
It's none of my business. So I'm not going to ask that question now.
00:46:38
I'm just going to go down and see her in the hospital and see how I can support her friends.
00:46:42
But I may never know. And it's really none of my business sometimes.
00:46:46
Do you know what I mean? But it's natural for you to ask. But then I did tell
00:46:49
her, I said, but I do know this. I know that she has challenges here and there.
00:46:53
So I still want to just talk to her about those things. Open conversations. That's good.
00:46:59
That's really good because at my age, I'm a lot older than both of you.
00:47:04
Right so growing up we were told not
00:47:08
to talk about mental health and like shove that down as far as
00:47:10
it can go and yeah oh you know you wake up on christmas
00:47:13
day and it has no place to go absolutely yeah
00:47:17
you know having these conversations with your kids now to get past some of that
00:47:21
generational trauma or yeah just the stigmatism about talking about it right
00:47:26
we need to talk about mental health and we need to get those conversations out
00:47:30
and we need to be inquisitive and learn how to be
00:47:33
supportive and like maybe learn how to step away a
00:47:36
little bit when it's when you're not
00:47:39
quite sure what the next step should be i i
00:47:42
am very thankful though for my family my friends my
00:47:46
wife my colleagues who all stepped
00:47:49
in after i started sharing my story
00:47:51
right because you all saw me in a
00:47:54
different light not but just saw
00:47:57
me as how vulnerable i was and that i did want
00:48:00
to share my journey because i was terrified and i
00:48:03
can only like speak to my story
00:48:06
but we've i've talked to other people and it's
00:48:09
terrifying for them too oh yes like if
00:48:12
you have extroverted friends check in on them yes because we are very good at
00:48:18
hiding it very good no and i can say too you know g-rex she was terrified like
00:48:24
after this happened because we and you know so we stayed in touch and we were
00:48:27
We're talking about a couple months after it happened,
00:48:30
we got together and I could just feel her.
00:48:32
She was totally terrified, a little embarrassed, which I told her not to be, don't be.
00:48:38
But she was completely terrified. And she was hoping, she's like, this is my rock bottom.
00:48:43
That I hope this never happens again. She just, you're right.
00:48:47
And just all of those emotions, you just hate to see someone going through.
00:48:51
But already, I hope, like you said, there's always so much light on the other side.
00:48:55
There's things to look forward to that you don't even know are in your life.
00:49:00
You don't even know, like podcasts for you, right? Would you ever think this is going to happen?
00:49:05
You know, possibly seeing, you know, an African-American woman as a president,
00:49:10
a baby being born, running into a college friend.
00:49:14
I mean, right? We could probably think of so many different things that you're
00:49:18
like, I never saw that coming.
00:49:20
So, you know, you want to give people hope. You know, there's a lot of shit
00:49:23
right now that you're dealing with.
00:49:24
Maybe, you know what I mean? It doesn't seem like you can see through it.
00:49:27
You're ever going to get through it. No one's ever going to understand. Right.
00:49:30
But we all have examples of things that came out of the blue that were wonderful
00:49:34
things that we were glad we were around to experience.
00:49:38
100%. And like you said, like with the podcast, three years ago,
00:49:42
this wasn't ever on the vision board, but neither was a mental breakdown.
00:49:48
But I think that I had to go through all that to get where I am now.
00:49:53
And if anything, I'm hoping my story is a story of hope.
00:49:57
Because i will tell you that life on
00:50:00
this side of depression is one billion times better than
00:50:03
it was on christmas day 2022 absolutely but i did a shit ton of work too right
00:50:09
i've done 20 20 months of really working on myself but you know one thing that
00:50:14
you can do for yourself too just from that from somebody on the outside looking
00:50:19
in is you know make sure that you're you know doing self
00:50:22
-love and self-care and that you're setting boundaries, right?
00:50:25
Because you need to take care of you before you can really go out and take care
00:50:30
of or help somebody else.
00:50:33
Those are my life lessons. Yeah. Put the oxygen mask on yourself, then help others.
00:50:39
Everybody is something to that. Right.
00:50:42
I think that's perfect. Thank you so much, B-Town, for sharing this story.
00:50:47
I appreciate hearing your perspective because it's not always that we get to
00:50:51
to hear what it's like to just witness and want to help and not know how.
00:50:56
So thank you for sharing that with us. I love that.
00:50:59
But we have some fun questions. Do you have your fun questions?
00:51:03
Oh, I can ask my fun questions. Yay. Are you ready? Do you have your thinking cap on?
00:51:10
Speaking of owls, no, I'm just kidding. We're going to have to get back to the
00:51:14
owl thing, but go ahead with your question.
00:51:17
What has been the hardest lesson you've had to learn so far?
00:51:19
Your ego is not your friend always.
00:51:24
That's very fucking true. And that's not an original thought.
00:51:28
That's from Oprah Winfrey.
00:51:30
Really, another thing that has always resonated with me, if I get my butt hurt
00:51:34
or if I get my feelings hurt, I'm like, why do I care so much about this?
00:51:38
And oftentimes it's my ego. It's not that I really care. And then I proceed
00:51:43
like a civilized human being rather than a spoiled brat.
00:51:47
I love that. If you could go back in time and give yourself a piece of advice,
00:51:52
how old are you when you go back and
00:51:55
what would you say oh geez gosh
00:51:59
that is so good I'm probably in
00:52:02
my 20s oh gosh I was just so heartbroken
00:52:06
and so that was probably a time where I was very depressed I had moved away
00:52:12
from like a really good support system yeah and just to say it's gonna get better
00:52:16
and you'll be better for this experience I guess yeah I'd love that I do All right.
00:52:23
I have one question. Actually, it's a two-parter.
00:52:26
What is your favorite word?
00:52:29
Okay. That's easy. I have one because I almost named my daughter this.
00:52:33
Bliss, right? It's just a happy word.
00:52:36
But Dirty Skittles, you know, the ramifications of naming my daughter Bliss, right?
00:52:41
The teasing, the word rhyming would be horrible, but I love that word.
00:52:44
Okay. So that's one word. My second one is acceptance.
00:52:48
So Bliss for me personally, acceptance is
00:52:52
what i would hope for the world well i love that
00:52:55
okay so what's your least favorite word
00:52:58
my least favorite
00:53:02
word oh gosh there's a lot of them right just remember your mom does occasionally
00:53:08
listen to the podcast exactly yeah so you know the see you next tuesday not
00:53:13
a fan i have friends that hate the word moist but then i just say it more often to annoy them
00:53:18
but that's not a great one yeah those
00:53:22
are the ones that i'm thinking of oh and but the one that makes me laugh
00:53:24
the most is mount for some reason so i love that
00:53:27
word too just you know so yeah those are
00:53:31
my thoughts thank you thank you thank
00:53:34
you b town god i love you so much thank you
00:53:37
for doing this thank you i love you too
00:53:39
i mean what a nice day to join you on this
00:53:42
so thank you you for having me you're welcome hi all
00:53:46
thank you so much for listening to this episode i'm g-rex and i'm dirty skittles
00:53:51
don't forget to subscribe rate and review this podcast we'd love to listen to
00:53:56
your feedback we can't do this without you guys it's okay to be not okay just make sure you.
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