Season 3, Thats a wrap, A Journey of Healing and Growth

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Is is that your, like, inner sex voice? Because that's how it goes. It's my

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outer sex voice.

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Alright. So we can have this together, so that's all I'll do. Okay. Ready? I'll

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just do the intro. Okay. Ready? Alright.

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Welcome back to another episode of shit that goes on our heads.

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We are wrapping up season 3. Can you ladies believe it?

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Nope. No. Not even in a 1000000 years. Do you

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hear my did you hear me pop my pee?

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Did you wet your pants again? Did I wet my pants?

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Yeah. No. I am wearing pants, So success.

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You you got ready. You put on makeup. You're ready to go. Right? Sort

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of. Chapstick and pants. So a

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ChapStick. Okay. It's like lip gloss. Yeah.

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Scrub pants and a pee pad. We're good. Exactly. I just cannot

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believe we are wrapping up season 3. I mean, it's been an incredible

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an incredible season. And, I mean, this year has been been

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huge. Jumping right into season 4 is gonna be incredible. We got some really exciting

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guests lined up. And, Oh, who was that?

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Frog. Yep. And, I mean, what a way to end the

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season. I mean, do you wanna talk let's actually, let's start there. Let's

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start talking about how we ended the season. So, I don't know. Dirty

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Skittles, T Rex? Who wants to take this one? Well, let me

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fangirl for a second. I cannot believe we ended the season with

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somebody who I looked up to and saw

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almost like like a unicorn. Like, they were a role model, but somebody

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I never thought I would ever get to shoot this shit with on our

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episode, And that was Viv. Yeah. It's the same

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for me. Like, she is a personal hero to me,

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a personal friend. And, I actually need to

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thank, my wife, Lisa, the

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lesbian. Mhmm. Because if it wasn't for her, Viv probably

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wouldn't have come on. Right? We we met Viv in the city

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in June, and, my wife just kept prodding on it. You

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know? Just kept saying, You gotta be on the on the podcast. You gotta be

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on the podcast. And finally, Viv came in, and,

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I will tell you, I've I've talked to her several times since

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Our, episode dropped, and she said it was so

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healing for her. And she felt so much love from

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from everyone that it It really brought so

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much joy to her her heart. So, you know,

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I I can't thank her enough. Yeah. I I mean, listening back to it,

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it was everything I wanted to hear and more. It

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was incredibly powerful. No. Insightful. There are some definitely some

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funny funny moments. I was also really surprised to hear her

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background. That was that That was something you don't get to hear a lot about

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from c suites traditionally is, you know, how they got

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where they are and and just such a Such an incredible journey. Right? I mean,

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starting from Cuba all the way to the c suite and beyond,

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grandkids. I mean, just just incredible. No.

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Yeah. She she is she's an incredible lady. And, just I

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was such an honor to to be able to interview her. Yeah.

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I feel like I'm still coming down off of that high. I I think

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this season, we just had some really cool, unique guests on,

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people that, you know, made us laugh, made me think, made me

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cry, and and just gave me a lot of insight into

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my My own heart, my own feelings. And it it's been

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like an incredibly, like, healing season. Yeah.

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Absolutely. So I know I know the obvious

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answer. So I'm let's put Viv aside for this question.

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But other than Viv, Like, let's talk about

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some guests that really had a big impact, maybe some highlights

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for some episodes, things like that. So, G Rex, do you

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wanna start and talk about some some highlights or some really

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interesting interesting stories that you heard this season? Yeah.

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So I loved hearing Marco's story and just how he was able to

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prevail through all the shit that he's been through in his life.

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You know, all those surgeries and, you know, boosting up his music

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career. Big b loved hearing

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from her. Like, you know, She she really took, you know, the

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workforce by the ball. She and ran by it ran with it.

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Crazy 8, I always love hearing from Crazy 8. And then

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having Jack and Brad on, they brought a whole different perspective

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onto the podcast. Right? Now we lapped

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And laughed at that. But they also had some, like, really interesting

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topics of introspection, and I I just loved

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I loved hearing all that. Like, I loved all our guests this this season. It

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was just really good. Yeah. As a personal note, it was

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very interesting hearing, Big V who's happens to be

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my mom and Dirty Skittle's mother-in-law.

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It it was interesting though because I actually had not heard All of those

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stories before. So I kind of knew about,

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the Tupperware story, but hearing more about that was was really interesting to

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me and just What a what a ride. So

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Did you get any like, did you get uncomfortable hearing her talk about

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her big v? I was muted. I didn't

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even hear it. What are you

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talking about? So wait. So there's

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more guests. So since we're we're kind of talking about these,

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Ripley. Ripley is fantastic. Ripley. That

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blew my mind. Like, everything that she is going through, went

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through, what she stands for everything. It just blew my mind. So super

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appreciative to just have her on our podcast and have her

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share her story. We had John, The energy healer

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Yeah. Which gave you some

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calmness. Right? Like, you brought some Yeah. A ton of tons

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of calmness. Like, I like, it's the best sleep I've ever had

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ever. Even counting the time you took a gummy

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and, And the NyQuil? Yeah.

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Okay. Just here's a PSA. Just don't do that.

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Okay? Do not take NyQuil and the gummy together.

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You will never fucking sleep again. Yeah. I liked getting to ask John

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the, Inside the Actors Studio questions at the end. That was

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fun. And then how move on, sorry, I just was blown

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away, that he was in a movie. Right? And then I actually went and rewatched

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it, and it's just, like, such a Weird experience. I mean,

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because I don't know about our listeners and everyone else, but I don't get to

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see a lot of celebrities in my day to day life, other than you 2,

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of course. And then, you know, getting to see him

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in a movie, that was a really interesting, exciting kinda thing for

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me. Yeah. And we cannot forget to

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mention, the return of mister m Right. And

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Jay and Archie. Yeah. That was cool. I

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mean, we heard a lot from listeners who were just happy to to

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finally hear the rest of the story, so that was really cool. I enjoyed

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that. Yeah. It it it's like I said, it was such a

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great season with so much introspection and, like,

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healing for for all of us. Right? Like, I I feel

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like every time we record, like, another piece of my

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heart gets healed or I learn something new. And, You

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know, this time last year was pretty much

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close to the downward spiral that I was going down

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And to look forward to where I am now, I'm I'm in such

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a better place. And I I have to think it's

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because of the podcast That I'm in

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such a better place. And I'm in a really good headspace, and I have a

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an amazing new purpose. And our producer,

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badass. Thanks. And we can't forget. I mean, tiki, we I know

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we've been talking about it off off the episode, but,

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That was just just a great episode all around. Yeah. I wanna go drinking with

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TV. Good news. He'll be in town in a week, and a half, so

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we actually we could. Yeah. That'll be fun. That'll be fun.

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It's like it's like day 1, bro. It's like day 1. I'm seeing people's names

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and shit. Alright.

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Alright. Let's are we ready for the next for the next question? Okay.

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Yeah. Alright. So we're gonna dive into some listener questions.

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The first being, what would you say is the most surprising thing you've

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learned about yourself by doing the podcast or just in the process

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of doing the podcast.

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Wow. Deep deep breath. Suspension. You went you went

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back in time with that. For me, it

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learning more about myself and Learning more about what

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other people are going through and how they get through their day to day

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lives. It

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I I it's my boy. And I think the

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other thing is, she's just my wife. Like, she every time we talk

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about the podcast, But not my face just by itself.

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Yeah. For me, I would say even

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though everybody has a unique story Or, you know,

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they come from a different background. I always

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am kind of shocked how similar Our struggles are,

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like, how much I'm able to take away from their story

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that'll help me in my day to day life. So that to me

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is is still kind of mind blowing when we talk to

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somebody that I'm like, I can relate to that. You know?

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Awesome. So let's move from relating to, looking up

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to someone. So in life, When you think

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about maybe a mentor or an aspirational

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person or it could even be a role if that's something that, you know, like

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a life Life goal, I'd love to hear from both of you.

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Who is that? Well, I have

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already gotten this Through this podcast to

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talk to at least 3 of them. Oh, cool. Yeah.

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1, crazy 8. Just hearing My dad on a

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personal level and not like a father daughter level,

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Viv. Because when I worked there, I looked

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at her like this is the most successful person ever, and, like, she

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stood for everything that I wanted to be one day. And then G

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Rex, you meant you mentored me at ultimate. So now I get to do a

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fucking podcast dance. That's really sweet. She was like, make connections,

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bro. Figure out who's gonna help you, and don't be scared to just ask them

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for help. So Okay. Now that you got me a little choked up,

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asshole. So You'll have to say me.

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I know it's me. Well, well, it is

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you. And, like, you know, a year ago, the

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podcast wasn't even in our our wheelhouse. Right? And

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you you bring out parts of me that I don't think anybody else has ever

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been able to bring out of me. And,

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You you allow for introspection and

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humor and Just, life's journey.

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Right? And to me, that is so freaking important to me.

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The second one would be my wife. You know? And

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She truly is a hero. Right? She she's 11

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years older than me, so she's a whole another generation ahead of

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me. But just to see how her eyes light

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up when I talk about the podcast and how much healing has gone

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on gone on over the last year has been Amazing to

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me. And then, of course, BIV. You know, I've looked at the

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BIV for 15 years, and I know

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she's gonna cry when she hears us, but, yeah, I don't care anymore.

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She has just such such a good heart, and she's a A true

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empath like I am. So we always wear our hard on sleeves. We're always,

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like, worried about how other people feel. But she

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she was So open and so honest with

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us about what was going on in her life and how her

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upbringing and Just hearing that side from her,

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man, it it it just it made my heart feel good.

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And, Yeah. Like, we're we're in a really

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amazing place in our life right now. Mhmm. I agree.

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Absolutely. I I'm gonna chime in on this question Yeah. Personally.

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It's kind of exciting. I have lots of folks that I would put in this

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category. But just in the context of the podcast. Actually,

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mister m is is on there. So a quick backstory

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on that is, my first, opportunity to

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work at a software company. I actually worked

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on a team with mister m, and he was my original

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mentor. And, for those who who know me, I'm a bit

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of a I'm very excitable

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and, jump into things. Jumping in the a gold

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retriever. I am. Like a gold retriever. What? Ball? Ball? Ball?

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And, definitely could have gotten off to a rough Start at that because I

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was just way too, like, maybe

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overly ambitious right at the bat. So he pulled me aside. I was like, hey,

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man. Like, You're rubbing people the wrong way, and I mean this in the best

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way possible and really just, like, reoriented me.

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And that was just an incredible moment. And then from that point on, Right?

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A friend, a mentor really, taught me the ropes. Also

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someone just personally to look up for. Right? Up to. He's just

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such a a nice, caring, kind person. Mhmm.

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Cares about everyone, will do anything for anyone, just a just an all

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around great person. So, I I definitely it was nice

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hearing his story and actually hearing other people kind of express the

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same sentiment. So Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for letting me Yeah. Of

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course. For the podcast. Well, we couldn't do this without you. We need

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somebody to edit. Yes. That is true.

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Although the adding has gotten much easier. It's it's because

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we're professionals. We're pros now. We're dealing with.

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Yeah. It is it is funny, though, because that one be

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that one in particular, because we had 3 people

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that are all, I think it was clear. Very close to each other.

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Mhmm. And then us, who's all pretty close with them. So there was a lot

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of, Name dropping. Name dropping in a way that, Normally, I can

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kind of edit around it and just, like, remove just the one name, but in

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that one, it was it was wild. Yeah.

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Alright. So moving along. I'm gonna add

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a little bit to this question, this listener question. So, the question

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is, what impact has doing this podcast had on you

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both from a personal as well as as well as a mental

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state? And then I'm also curious. I'm gonna add in a professional state

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because, I know a lot of coworkers of yours

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listen to podcast, and I'm just curious about

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personal, mental, and professional. Do you wanna go first, Jarex?

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Yeah. So, personally, I

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those podcasts have been so freaking healing for me. I

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I didn't realize At the time, I didn't realize, like,

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how much healing I needed. And, you know, fast

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forward to where we are now, And I I'm into such a much

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better mental state, and I'm happier. I

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smile more. And professionally, I I'm I'm

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super fortunate. Right? Like, I work for a company where the owners

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of the company actually love what I'm doing. Love our messaging.

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Love the podcast. You know, we're out

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there helping every helping others heal Every

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single day. And it's not only healing for our

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listeners, but it's healing for dirty signals in life. We we get on

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and, you know, record our podcast, And it's super

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healing for the both of us. I I I hope you don't mind me saying

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that to receive respect. Like, we Our faces

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just light up when we do this, and I I'm

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incredibly fortunate. I get to work with, you

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know, Amazing people at my job, and I get

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to record with my amazing cohost who makes me laugh

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and Helps me, like, see deeper inside myself

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than I I don't think I would have had if I hadn't had the podcast.

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Yeah. Oh, I would say for me,

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personally, it is it has given

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me an outlet to be creative.

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And why that's important is because I think that's how I get out of

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my head. If I can do something that's creative, that's my

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kind of little thing, Then it helps kind of the everyday,

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like, grind of working a 9 to 5. You know? I can get out and

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do this and have fun,

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mentally. I mean, I learned something

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every single recording that we do that helps me,

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So I would say that. And

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then professionally, it's

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always. That's a very interesting question

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because a lot of my coworkers listen to the podcast,

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But I think they all kind of know how awkward I am, just socially awkward.

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So they don't necessarily will they don't always talk to me about the

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episode. But I have 1 coworker who I will

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seek out, you know, his opinion on how an episode went,

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and, That's been interesting. It's been interesting. He's

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brought a lot of good perspectives, and,

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Viv's episode was one that, you know, I knew selfishly

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for me that I was gonna get to talk to somebody who I looked up

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to, But I knew it would heal kind

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of that empty space of, you know, missing

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ultimate. And after speaking with him because I I actually got

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closure on on speaking with Viv, and I brought it up to

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him. And At that point, I think he had listened to it twice already

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when we talked that day. And I'm like and I'm like, well, how do you

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feel? Like, expecting him to like, after part 2, well, I feel closure

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or whatever. And and he did, but he also brought that

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perspective of it was not only

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Closure for ultimate, but it was closure for this

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person he looked up to. So, like, he was essentially saying goodbye twice.

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And so he had to listen to it a couple of times to kind of

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fully depart from that. But, yeah, I don't know.

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It's just been it's been interesting to get those perspectives, especially

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when it's people you work with. So And go going back to that, sort

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of mentor conversation we were having, One of your old

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mentors, old bosses, I know you keep a really close touch

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with him. Yeah. And you've been chatting with him about the episodes. Yes.

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You talk about that a little bit? Yeah. I mean, I

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asked him to today. I'm like, hey. Is there any questions you have for us?

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And, like, He is such a

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he's he's just so good. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know how

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to, like, sum it up, but he always has good Insight,

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good advice, whether it's personally or professionally.

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He married Bizzle and I, so, like, this is somebody that I I look up

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to. And sure as shit, if it didn't take him 2 seconds

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to just drop something real heavy and hard, then I'm like, that is an amazing

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idea, but we're not gonna be able to fit that in the next 30 minutes.

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Like, we're gonna have to do that for the next season. I'll tell you what

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it is. Oh, so you're not gonna share? You're gonna keep this a secret? Like,

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as, what do you call that? Cliffhanger? Yeah. Sort

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of. I mean, he has a really good way to

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end seasons. And,

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Yeah. I mean, we just couldn't do it in the in the next 30 minutes.

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I mean, I can are you gonna edit it out if I say what it

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is? No. Keep it a secret for me.

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That'll be exciting. Keep keep it a secret. But I will say every time we

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do a cliffhanger, like a Two part episode. I cannot tell you how

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many emails or texts I get about that and how

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frustrated people are that they have to wait. Yeah. So, We'll

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try our best, I think, next next season for less of those, but

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sometimes the conversation is just so good. We can't we can't cut it short or

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edit it down too much. That's true. So just on one more note

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on the professional aspect. So I've actually, like, started,

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putting, information out out onto LinkedIn.

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At first, I didn't feel really super comfortable about that.

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But as like, with Deb's episode and a few other

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episodes where I think it's, Like, really pertinent to

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people's work life and managing their mental health. I've been

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putting information out on LinkedIn and just the the notes I get back from

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people. I mean, it makes me cry. Right? And

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I I left alt I left UKG on my

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previous job, You know, in April, and people are still reaching out to

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me to this day, thanking me and Dury Stills

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for doing this podcast because it's healing for them. Not

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even to not even not just the big episode, but, you know,

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other episodes that we've done because they get so much

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introspection and Healing and learning from those

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episodes, it it's, heartwarming to me. Yeah.

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I think I mean, the thing I come the common threat I hear most

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is A lot of people appreciate the fact that, like,

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they hear the the stories and and people's

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lives, and they're not alone. Right? Because we've covered A ton of

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ground, a lot of different topics, and I think a lot of people really

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appreciate that it's maybe they felt like they were, To some

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degree, alone in that experience or that story, and that the

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reality is is there's lots of other people out there going through the same

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thing, good and bad. Mhmm.

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I was like, oh, we're gonna get a we're gonna get a

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response, but, nope, just just White stare. It didn't eat it.

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It didn't eat it. You you said something amazing, so I just let it roll.

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Alright.

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Why are you laughing now? Okay. So it's very strange interviewing

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you Why? At this con because, I mean, we have a lot of conversation, but

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they're a lot less formal. You know what I mean? Maybe you don't have to

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be formal. Yeah. You don't have to be formal. Or weave formal. Was unnecessary.

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And the bow tie? Yeah. The bow tie. So let's start with G

00:23:04
Rex. I'm gonna start with you on this one. What would you say you learned

00:23:07
unexpectedly recently? And I I'm asking

00:23:11
actually aside from the podcast, just in life, any unexpected,

00:23:15
Life lessons or just something you've learned? Yeah. I

00:23:19
I I've learned that boundaries are so

00:23:23
Fucking important. Like, I have a

00:23:26
box now. It's called the drama box. So if it smells like

00:23:30
drama, It doesn't come in my box anymore. A year ago,

00:23:34
yeah, it probably went a seeped through and, like, sucked me in. But

00:23:37
now I'm like, He can't with you wet.

00:23:42
I It's in the gutter. I'm sorry. Yeah. Can can you, like, reel it

00:23:45
back? I'm, like, trying to be serious here, girl. Deep thoughts

00:23:49
in your over your Deep thoughts. But, like, having that

00:23:53
boundary have setting up those boundaries had been

00:23:57
So important to me. Because now how do I do

00:24:01
it? I was gonna ask how you how you approach that because it's not always

00:24:04
easy to set boundaries with folks. Like, it's you know, sometimes it's,

00:24:08
it's either a difficult or fierce conversation or

00:24:11
harder. I I so the

00:24:15
harder part of it is just not engaging, period. Right? Like,

00:24:19
not saying anything. Like, somebody else say something, and I

00:24:23
won't engage. And that's the hardest part for me because I'm so used

00:24:26
to engaging. But, you know, it's something I learned in therapy is

00:24:30
that you don't always have to engage. Right? So I'll I'll sit with it for

00:24:34
a while before I decide whether It gets

00:24:38
to come in the drama box or not. I think that's

00:24:41
that's been very healing for me. Right? And I

00:24:45
I can take that lesson in into, like, either a work

00:24:49
situation or a personal situation And

00:24:53
have a little introspection about whether or not it's really

00:24:57
that important to engage. And that's that's something that I've learned

00:25:00
and So powerful. I'm a sweet I

00:25:04
know the 3 of us are are problem solvers. Right? It doesn't matter what the

00:25:07
problem or the context or is it your job or not, and We just jump

00:25:11
in. We're like, okay. We can help or we can get involved or do what

00:25:14
we can to solve that, but not it's not always our place

00:25:17
or really in our best interest to do that. So I'm just

00:25:21
gonna keep keep following up with you, Gerex, but I'm curious. Okay. When you see

00:25:24
that problem or you hear that that conversation, like,

00:25:28
What are you are you having a a conscious thought to

00:25:32
say that isn't something I should engage in,

00:25:35
or is it just Through the therapy, you've kind of just been able to,

00:25:40
sort of subconsciously do that? It's a

00:25:44
lot of self talk. Right? It's like, okay. Is this

00:25:48
healthy for me? Do I need to get involved?

00:25:52
You know, what will be the outcomes of this? And,

00:25:56
like, I I run that scenario back through my head. And if

00:25:59
I get, like, nose on all 3 of those,

00:26:03
I disengage. And because For myself?

00:26:07
I I need that for me because I do not wanna go back down

00:26:10
that freaking scary path I went through

00:26:14
From October to December of last year. Right? I I

00:26:18
need to keep those boundaries and and kinda stick with it,

00:26:21
and I I think I'm a better person because of it.

00:26:25
What about you, George Gittles? Life lessons, something you've learned

00:26:29
unexpectedly?

00:26:33
You know, I should've been thinking about my answer. This time. But I was I

00:26:36
was listening to T Rex. Well,

00:26:40
because last time you talked about being an active listener, so maybe that's a good

00:26:43
thing. Yeah.

00:26:47
I would say it is

00:26:52
it's easy to forget how hard I worked

00:26:56
in therapy to get to where I was or am.

00:27:00
And I think what I've learned is that

00:27:04
It's constant work. It's never just like, oh,

00:27:07
it's fixed, and you never have to think about it again. You have to always

00:27:11
be working on yourself. And so there are still times

00:27:15
now where I think it's easy to sort of slip back into bad habits

00:27:19
and learning That

00:27:23
I've already have the tools to be able to acknowledge

00:27:27
and identify something and then work to resolve it It's something

00:27:30
that I'm constantly working and, you know, working

00:27:34
on. And, you know yeah. I mean,

00:27:39
There you go. And

00:27:43
we can cut this if you want, but, so here here's the

00:27:46
question. So G Rex talked about

00:27:50
boundaries, and I'm gonna, you know, make the the leap to

00:27:53
assume that's both personal and professional. What are you doing

00:27:57
to make that leap as well?

00:28:01
Professional and personal? Yeah. Yeah.

00:28:04
Well, I can tell you, I,

00:28:09
it might have been last Year maybe. Oh,

00:28:13
it's before we moved to Georgia. I set probably one of

00:28:17
the tallest and strongest boundaries

00:28:21
personally that I never ever ever

00:28:24
thought I would do. And that has actually brought me such

00:28:28
great joy and A weight off my shoulders. And

00:28:31
I kind of what you were saying, one of the hardest

00:28:35
parts is to not engage. I feel like it's important to understand that when you

00:28:39
set a boundary that's healthy for you doesn't necessarily mean the other

00:28:42
party is going to abide by that boundary. So when they test

00:28:46
it, it's it's important to not engage. And so

00:28:50
I had set the boundary. I felt the weight lift off my

00:28:53
chest, And it wasn't until literally

00:28:57
maybe yesterday or this morning, because time blurs together

00:29:01
now, that I That that person

00:29:04
finally acknowledged that that was my boundary and didn't test it.

00:29:08
And I was like, oh, like, that shit worked. You know? Like,

00:29:11
that That has been awesome

00:29:16
and has provided a lot of relief. Professionally, I don't think

00:29:19
I I think I'm learning that,

00:29:25
and I think I where I struggle with it is how much

00:29:28
of myself Am I willing to

00:29:33
protect and set up

00:29:37
boundaries? Because I think and I might be wrong, but

00:29:40
I feel like, personally, like, my emotions

00:29:45
aren't Always, like, necessarily it's not really work. Right?

00:29:49
But it but it still affects you emotionally. So I don't know. I'm struggling with

00:29:53
setting up boundaries. But I I'm starting to learn

00:29:56
that loyalty isn't quite the same

00:30:00
as Staying with some work someplace because you wanna be

00:30:04
loyal to them doesn't really make

00:30:08
sense when they are not helping you. It's it's a

00:30:12
challenge, the imbalance between, you know, the employee

00:30:15
employer relationship. Right? Because as an employee,

00:30:19
right, You need the paycheck, all those things. And

00:30:23
what just personally, not necessarily what you're saying, but for me, it took a long

00:30:27
time to Get to the realization that, like,

00:30:30
everyone's replaceable, c suite down. Right? It's

00:30:34
not a Not everybody loves hearing that. Took me a lot a lot of

00:30:38
years to figure that out. But employers you know,

00:30:41
they Usually, it's the most important relationship, right, is you and your boss.

00:30:46
And sometimes employers have to make

00:30:50
tough decisions. Right? That your employee your boss can't really

00:30:54
necessarily make that that choice. So Challenging

00:30:57
to I guess what I was trying to get to is that it's challenging to

00:31:01
always set those boundaries because there's an imbalance. There's

00:31:04
also you know, you don't wanna let your coworkers down.

00:31:08
And at at least with you too and many other people I work with, just

00:31:12
a passion for the role in the client. And so you're like, am I letting

00:31:16
down my coworkers? Am I letting down the client?

00:31:21
All with this sort of umbrella of imbalance between the employer

00:31:25
because they're banking on a lot of that loyalty, a lot of that

00:31:28
passion for the client and the The coworkers, right, to to

00:31:32
kinda keep folks Yeah. Enroll.

00:31:36
I I will tell you, it took me 44 years, though, to learn

00:31:39
those boundaries. It wasn't something that I probably

00:31:43
held, you know, 20 years ago. Yeah. I mean But it

00:31:47
It it took a mental breakdown for me to

00:31:50
figure out what that was. And, you know, I wish that, you know,

00:31:54
I'd had those Sent those boundaries out 20 years ago.

00:31:58
I probably wouldn't have gotten to where I was. Yeah. Personally, it

00:32:02
took me, what, 40 I don't wanna say how old I am. Forty

00:32:05
ish years to learn how to set personal

00:32:09
boundaries with that needed that should have well, I

00:32:13
don't wanna I don't wanna, like, negate, but that I could have said, I

00:32:16
guess, had I had the right tools Way earlier on in life. But,

00:32:20
yeah, I mean, I don't think it matters how long it takes you to get

00:32:23
there as long as you get there. You know? Right. I think for our

00:32:27
listeners too is that they they need to learn how to set boundaries,

00:32:30
both both personal and professional because your life is so much

00:32:34
better With those boundaries. Yep.

00:32:38
Sorry. I was trying to read the next question. You can read.

00:32:42
Go for it. Kind of actually on that same

00:32:45
same topic, but a a little bit different is,

00:32:50
is there something that, you've heard people

00:32:54
call self care, but in reality, might not be self

00:32:57
care, might actually be detrimental or harmful. And,

00:33:01
again, Not therapists or anything like that, but just, you know, kind of in

00:33:05
your own experience. I mean, I can tell you for me,

00:33:09
what I I still struggle with it,

00:33:13
but what I used to do before and call it self care

00:33:16
was indulging. I've had a shit day at work.

00:33:20
I am gonna drink this entire bottle of wine and have ice cream

00:33:24
and have donuts and have whatever because I just don't give a fuck. I'm tired.

00:33:28
I'd feel like shit, and this is gonna make me Feel

00:33:31
better realizing that

00:33:35
for me, that does not work. That doesn't work

00:33:38
physically. Like like, I think TMI, but I

00:33:42
think I have a gluten intolerance. So, like, the doughnuts is anyways,

00:33:46
I realized for me, indulging is not is

00:33:50
not healthy. And that

00:33:54
While it may taste good,

00:33:59
I need I I would benefit more from So diving into what has pissed

00:34:03
me off or what has stressed me out that day and come to terms.

00:34:06
Because in the grand scheme of things, once I come to terms with Whatever

00:34:10
it is and have tools and figure out what I'm gonna do, that will

00:34:14
last longer, and I will benefit from that longer than eating

00:34:18
or drinking in that moment. So I hear a lot

00:34:21
of people like, oh, you've had a tough day. Just just eat that or, like,

00:34:25
do this or whatever. It's gonna be fine, And

00:34:29
it doesn't always work. I think the funny part about that is that a

00:34:33
lot of studies are showing that Exercise is actually

00:34:36
really good for mental health and and things like that. So I fall in the

00:34:40
same category right where I have a tough day, and I'm like, oh, let me

00:34:42
just have a A whiskey or eat this, you know, this dessert or whatever

00:34:46
when in reality, for me at least, I think exercising would have been the

00:34:50
answer, but I still fall into that. Yeah. I I totally agree. I

00:34:54
I agree with Terry Seals. It's indulging. Right? So we indulge

00:34:57
in in booze. We indulge in food. We

00:35:01
indulge in, you know, watching a certain genre of

00:35:04
TV or whatever. But in reality, it it comes back to bite

00:35:08
you in the ass. Right? Like, the next day you wake up, you got a

00:35:11
fucking hangover. Your stomach hurts. You know? I I

00:35:15
think that just exercising Instead

00:35:19
of indulging would be better, but I I've been better about self

00:35:22
care. Like, for me, self care is you know, I got up from my desk

00:35:25
and got something to eat today or, You know, I

00:35:29
walked outside and, you know, grounded myself

00:35:33
in the earth. Things like that, I think, are better

00:35:37
Tips for self care, then, let's go drink a a

00:35:41
gigantic bottle of wine and call it a day. For sure.

00:35:44
Yeah. Completely open world answer.

00:35:48
Where would you say you are currently in life?

00:35:54
Side note, I like that I wrote that down, but that just shocked me. I'm

00:35:57
like, well You did write this this particular question down, and

00:36:01
you just got blown away by your own question. 22

00:36:09
Can you actually crush him again? Sorry. We distracted.

00:36:13
Squirrel. Yes. So completely open ended.

00:36:17
Where would you say you are currently in life? Where am I am

00:36:21
personally in life? I okay. This is this

00:36:25
might go off on a tangent. You might have to cut this shit out. But

00:36:27
I'm gonna tell you, Personally in life, while I am

00:36:31
learning how to set boundaries, and I think

00:36:35
I think I'm on the verge of, like, my forever

00:36:40
next move. Right? Like, I feel it. I feel the energy in the

00:36:43
air. Maybe it's because my crystals are charging.

00:36:47
Full eclipse. You're getting your crystals charged. I'm feeling like, No.

00:36:51
I say that because not too long ago, sneak

00:36:55
peek in season 4, we have someone who

00:36:58
It continues to impact me this episode almost every other week,

00:37:02
and it is a life coach. Right? Although Mhmm. She doesn't call herself

00:37:06
a life Coach, if I remember correctly, she has another term, but you you get

00:37:10
the idea. Yeah. And there was this mantra of

00:37:14
that episode where it was, I choose me,

00:37:17
And it has continued to just stick with me. And so I feel like

00:37:21
I'm on the verge of making my next big move,

00:37:25
and I'm right now

00:37:28
planning it strategically because while it's

00:37:32
a passion of mine, I have bills to pay, bud. You

00:37:36
know? I need benefits. I got, like, a husband and a

00:37:39
child, so I can't completely abandon ship to go and do this passion

00:37:43
thing. So I'm finding a way to do it now because we also

00:37:47
another sneak peek had somebody on season 4 who talks

00:37:51
about The fact that we

00:37:54
it's natural to keep pushing something off. Just do

00:37:58
it. Just If you can, if you have the means to do it, just jump

00:38:01
into it, and I do. And so I'm I'm there. I'm

00:38:05
like, I'm on this verge of, like, doing something that I'm actually gonna Proud of

00:38:09
that. I think I'm gonna be super successful at I can start it

00:38:13
now while I have that stability. Well, at least I think

00:38:17
I have disability.

00:38:21
Yes. I'm I'm feeling excited. It's the crystals. It's

00:38:24
the energy. It's vibing downstairs. I mean, I have I have enjoyed

00:38:28
watching you do this this project, and I think you're you

00:38:32
seem to be really not enjoying it. No. I

00:38:36
don't Wow. Okay. Keep those peachy. Mike. Yeah.

00:38:40
I've seen what you've been doing over there.

00:38:44
Hey, girl. I like what I see.

00:38:52
You know Kate Bates getting nervous when she'd be like, oh, you're gonna turn it

00:38:55
off. I can hear her. I'll just send

00:38:59
her more chicken memes. It's for you, Kate Bate.

00:39:03
No. But I I have seen, you know, The project, we're

00:39:07
not gonna talk about exactly what it is yet. Right? Okay.

00:39:11
She's nodding for those who can't see her, which is everyone.

00:39:16
But, yeah, it's really exciting. It seems like it'll be a lot of fun, and,

00:39:19
you know, it could turn into something huge. It could just be something fun,

00:39:23
Anything in between as long as you're enjoying it. My goal is to be

00:39:26
self employed. That's my goal. I'm

00:39:30
putting it out in the universe. By this time next year, It will be

00:39:34
successful in my 2 passion projects, putting

00:39:38
it out there, and the crystals are listening.

00:39:43
Did you get teary eyed, Faye? That's a lot of pressure on those crystals.

00:39:47
They don't know what they're in for. About to be diamonds when we get upstairs.

00:39:52
Sorry. My bad, G Rex. You got us in a weird moment.

00:39:57
What's happening? I I did. I think my eyes are burning out a little

00:40:00
bit. Where am I at my life? I'm

00:40:04
grateful. Mhmm. I'm fucking grateful. I'm

00:40:07
grateful for What I went through,

00:40:11
where I'm at now, I'm grateful for the podcast. I'm

00:40:15
grateful for my wife. I I'm

00:40:18
incredibly blessed. Right? Like, I'm at a point in my life where,

00:40:22
like, I don't have to really give a fuck about a lot of things. I

00:40:26
give a fuck about the things I'm super passionate about, the podcast,

00:40:31
my my wife, my house here in upstate New York, my

00:40:34
friends. I'm fucking I I'm so

00:40:38
grateful for life and these experiences

00:40:41
that Never in a 1000000 fucking

00:40:45
years did I think it was gonna happen because a lot of this shit was

00:40:48
not in my wheelhouse. Right? I think I had to go through all that shit

00:40:52
To get where I'm at now, but I'm eternally grateful

00:40:56
for for everything. I'm I'm grateful for my

00:40:59
therapist. And

00:41:04
But most important of all, I'm I'm grateful for my wife because

00:41:08
she She's so funny. She's like, I've never seen you work so hard on

00:41:12
something you don't get paid for. But I'm

00:41:15
so Passionate about what we do with her podcast.

00:41:20
And I know that every day, we're helping people deal

00:41:24
with their own shit. And I don't ever want anybody to feel as

00:41:27
lonely and terrified as I did because at the time that it was happening, I

00:41:31
couldn't find my voice, and I couldn't find my footing.

00:41:34
And just the people we hear from, like, when I

00:41:38
read our reviews and people that send me

00:41:42
emails and texts, People have called us healers. I don't see myself

00:41:45
as a healer. I see myself as, you know, being my

00:41:49
authentic self and Having organic conversations with people

00:41:53
and sharing my story. Right? And I I

00:41:56
think well, I know that It has been so

00:41:59
impactful on my own personal life that, you know,

00:42:03
I wake up every day, and I'm, like, happy that it's a new

00:42:07
day. And so, I have to thank for

00:42:10
the wheel for, you know, letting me fulfill that

00:42:14
passion. I I think it was a void missing in my life

00:42:18
That now is here, and we see it,

00:42:22
through fruition. And, it's a little scary,

00:42:26
Right? Because nobody we didn't ever

00:42:29
think that people would listen to us, and now we, you know,

00:42:34
We get people in 60 countries listening to us, and

00:42:38
we have a 140 plus downloads. Like, how does that

00:42:41
happen? Crazy. It's really crazy.

00:42:49
And now I got a little teary eyed. Thanks. Sorry. Well,

00:42:53
I think that's a nice transition to maybe we could preview some

00:42:56
exciting stuff that's coming up and maybe talk a little bit,

00:43:00
about just how the sausage is made. Right? I don't think we talk a

00:43:04
lot about how, like, the podcast is done or anything like that.

00:43:08
So, leading this off, basically, where I'm going

00:43:11
is is we're actually I think we're about halfway

00:43:15
through recording next season. I think we do

00:43:18
have 7. Yeah. Think so. I heard you

00:43:22
recorded. We're booked all the way through

00:43:26
season 5. Yeah. I think it's really interesting.

00:43:30
Maybe maybe what would be interesting to listeners is,

00:43:35
Talking about, like, some behind the scenes. So maybe talk about

00:43:39
how do you find guests? Talk maybe about the the interview

00:43:42
process. Right? Because there's, I mean, there's a lot of work that goes into that

00:43:45
part, stuff like that. So maybe I'm gonna

00:43:49
give G Rex a huge shout out on this one. So

00:43:53
It kind of starts this is from my point of view.

00:43:58
G Rex will say, hey. I have this person. I think you're gonna be really

00:44:01
interesting on the podcast, and then I go, okay. Cool. And then

00:44:05
25 invites show up in your And on your

00:44:09
calendar, and I'm like, well, let's ride. Yeah. And,

00:44:13
then after that, we do prerecording interview.

00:44:16
Mhmm. Just to make sure, you know, our vibes are flowing well,

00:44:21
kinda get an idea of what topic we're gonna discuss.

00:44:25
We I'm all I'm just a a very,

00:44:29
interested. No. That's not like a word. Inquisitive? Mhmm.

00:44:33
Inclusive. Inclusive person. So as I'm kind of hearing their

00:44:36
story of what they're comfortable sharing, I

00:44:40
Jot down a few talking points because I don't wanna forget

00:44:44
them. Mhmm. And, you know, I know you know? Because sometimes we have, like, this

00:44:47
prerecording meetings, and then it's, like, 4 or 5 weeks

00:44:51
later, we're actually recording. So it's important for me to not forget. So I have

00:44:54
this little notebook. I little jot them down, and then we come out, and then

00:44:58
we kind of talk about it. But you do a lot more work in booking

00:45:01
guests. Yeah. Just to piggyback off that, y'all are doing

00:45:05
basically 2 to 3, I don't know. Prescreens,

00:45:08
just like preview conversations every week, right, to really

00:45:12
get to, like, those interesting and incredible stories. So

00:45:16
Yep. That part's really interesting and also kind of a lot of work.

00:45:20
Yeah. I mean yeah. Probably more for Grew racks. I mean,

00:45:24
it's a lot of time. I would say we're putting a lot of time into

00:45:26
this. Like, I think season 1 again, we didn't think anybody would

00:45:30
listen. We were just all like, hey. Do you wanna do you wanna record it?

00:45:33
Yeah. Fuck it. Let's just pop out 4 and, like because we're just

00:45:36
so like, you know, we'll talk. And now there's a lot more thought

00:45:40
going into it. If it's not, like, somebody I know personally

00:45:44
who I find interesting, Most of the talent comes from either you or G

00:45:48
Rex. So What about you, G Rex? So

00:45:51
for me, Like, I don't know how this happened, but

00:45:56
because I honestly don't. About a

00:45:59
month and a half ago, We started getting

00:46:03
a ton of guest requests, through

00:46:07
email. Mhmm. And it's, like, from all different walks of life,

00:46:10
like Wall Street Journal bestsellers, Emmy,

00:46:14
Emmy award winning, music artist,

00:46:19
psychotherapist. Everybody's got a story. And

00:46:24
I I ended up having to get count Calendly Because

00:46:28
I couldn't manage our calendar anymore by just

00:46:32
via email. Right? So I would send the link out But she I

00:46:35
guess they were inter that, you know, were interested in being on the podcast.

00:46:40
Now everybody has to come in with their own personal Mental health

00:46:43
journey because we wanna stay on mission. Right? I don't

00:46:47
I don't mind people coming in and, like, You know, talking

00:46:51
about their podcast or, you know, their businesses or whatever. But we

00:46:55
wanna make sure that we have that meat and potatoes,

00:46:59
Mental health because, you know, everybody has that their own journey.

00:47:02
And so now, like Derry Skittle said,

00:47:06
we we have guests through, Actually,

00:47:10
it's through season 6 now, probably through May

00:47:13
of 2024. And, like, the fuck ever would have thought that would

00:47:17
happen is beyond me. But, like, you know,

00:47:21
people that are coming into the inbox

00:47:25
are, like, genuine people. Right? And it's not just, like, big

00:47:28
people. It's like a lot of little a lot of little people. Right? And I

00:47:31
I I wanna stick with, like, the little people Because

00:47:35
they all have a journey. Right? And a lot of times, their stories don't get

00:47:39
told. And I I wanna make sure that Their stories get

00:47:42
told and that it could be a a learning or a healing

00:47:46
process for somebody else that's going through something similar.

00:47:52
The other thing that's kinda cool is, like, somebody did, a random

00:47:55
interview on us. Right? I I read the interview. Yeah. Or not

00:47:59
the interview, but, a review. And, like, I it brought me to

00:48:03
tears. Like, how number 1, how did you fucking find us? Right?

00:48:07
Because There's 4 podcasts out there. How

00:48:10
you found us is beyond it. Yeah. I thought that was cool.

00:48:14
And that, yeah, the art the review, right, that somebody did like

00:48:18
that. And, you know, shout outs from different podcasts and and

00:48:22
things like that. I It it's a lot of work,

00:48:26
but it's not work. Right? It's a passion, and I I

00:48:29
I enjoy doing it. And I enjoy meeting these new people because

00:48:34
With each person we we interview, I become personally

00:48:37
invested now. Right? So now we have

00:48:41
3 4 seasons of people that we've never met before.

00:48:45
We have a few that we've met. But we've never met these people before,

00:48:49
You know? Didn't know about them. And now we get to hear their stories and

00:48:52
their journeys, and we're not only helping ourselves. We're helping

00:48:56
our listeners. And I think that's the coolest part about

00:49:00
all of this. Yeah. I find myself personally,

00:49:04
super invested in the guest and then following them

00:49:08
afterwards and just kind of seeing what they're doing.

00:49:12
Marco went by Marco. Right? Mhmm. I couldn't remember if he yeah. I I

00:49:15
can't remember if Every guest comes up with a This season, almost

00:49:19
everybody went by their real name. Yeah. Minus the

00:49:23
one that Fucked up earlier. So, like, Marco, I I've Yeah. I follow him

00:49:27
on Instagram, and he's always posting new music and just really

00:49:31
I still hear him singing,

00:49:35
Yeah. And I'm not cutting that out. Yeah. You fucking are, bud.

00:49:39
Nope. Too late. Too late. I could cut

00:49:42
I did cut I cut that out. I got the singing in there. Don't you

00:49:46
fucking I swear to Christ. I don't Lip biscuit.

00:49:50
Lip biscuit. Plus, she just starts

00:49:54
throwing in random

00:49:57
Girl? You know what would be wild is if we book somebody from

00:50:01
Red Hot Chili Peppers. Oh, don't tell my mom's on it. Don't tell your mom

00:50:05
at all just to see if she listens. What was the last episode you heard?

00:50:08
Yeah. But it's nice to fan. Sorry. But yeah. Like, so

00:50:12
Marco, super invested. Ripley, same thing.

00:50:16
Yeah. And then, obviously, my background is music. So anybody that comes on and talks

00:50:19
about music, I'm gonna be, super into. But

00:50:23
Every story, it's just so so engaging and just

00:50:27
really for me, personally, I I it's it just added, like, more color

00:50:30
to my life to, like, Just follow people and what they're doing in their lives,

00:50:34
that kind of thing. So I've I really enjoyed that. Love that. It it

00:50:38
reminds me of, Tales from the crawl space 2. Like, I

00:50:42
never in a 1000000 years could have listened to a podcast like that.

00:50:46
And as creepy as they are, Like, they're funny. Right?

00:50:49
And, like like, I think we all need that levity

00:50:53
in our life that, you know, we need to find something that's gonna make us

00:50:57
laugh other than the 3 stills might talking to each other

00:51:00
every morning. If you had told me 2 months ago that I would have

00:51:04
subscribed and download and listened to a podcast about pest

00:51:08
control. I would not

00:51:11
have believed you. Not not for a second, but, Oh, man.

00:51:15
Those guys are hilarious. They're so funny. Yeah. They're

00:51:19
and not that I have a favorite child, but that

00:51:24
actually had me laughing so fucking hard and, like, such

00:51:27
a great mood after chatting with those guys. So

00:51:31
good. So before we get to our very last

00:51:34
question of the podcast, we got a couple things we're pretty excited

00:51:38
about, some things we wanna plug. First, I'm gonna throw

00:51:42
this over to you, dirty skills. We have a live session coming up.

00:51:45
So do you wanna tell the folks about the live session that's coming up? Yes.

00:51:49
Have you ever sat while listening to this and thought to yourself,

00:51:52
man, I feel like I'm in a room with them. Well,

00:51:56
now you can be, Sort of. We are gonna

00:51:59
record a live session of G

00:52:03
Rex and I talking about holiday depression. We're gonna welcome you to

00:52:07
our Thanksgiving table. You can sit and eat with us, have a little

00:52:10
cocktail if you'd like, if that's your thing, not, make yourself a cup of

00:52:14
coffee, tea, water, And just chill with us and

00:52:17
watch us live. So, hopefully, we don't have anything that we would

00:52:21
normally edit out happen. So what you're saying is,

00:52:25
Speaking of, chilling with us, as you put it,

00:52:29
we have a way that our listeners can actually

00:52:33
submit Questions about

00:52:36
seasonal depression, seasonal emotions, things like

00:52:40
that. So go in the show notes, Find that

00:52:44
link, submit your question or or comment, and,

00:52:48
we'll be we'll be covering it at that live session.

00:52:53
So Awesome. Yep. And then, G Rex, for you, we

00:52:56
have some really exciting news on the merch

00:53:01
And how to get in touch and website front, do you

00:53:04
wanna do you wanna talk us through what we got going on going over there?

00:53:08
Yeah. So, in the show notes, there's gonna be a link to

00:53:12
our, web page. Within that web page,

00:53:15
there's a link for merch. We can go out. We have shirts. We have

00:53:19
sweatshirts. We have shot glasses. We have coffee mugs.

00:53:23
We have a flask that I was drinking out of earlier.

00:53:27
We have all sorts of cool stuff that we're adding in every day, and,

00:53:32
just you can go in. It's in the,

00:53:36
The headers, just click on merch, takes you out to our website. They,

00:53:40
dropship it to you without having it come through us. Within the

00:53:43
website too is if you don't feel comfortable leaving us a a voice

00:53:47
message, you can actually shoot us an email from the same

00:53:50
place. And if you still feel comfortable, we

00:53:54
don't have this yet. We're working on it. We have a newsletter. So if you

00:53:57
subscribe, We're really shooting for season

00:54:01
4 for that newsletter. You know, still things we're learning how

00:54:05
to do, But, we've made a lot of updates for our web page. So

00:54:09
Yeah. If you wanna submit a question, but to G Rex's point, you don't

00:54:13
wanna Go by your name or you want it to be anonymous, just

00:54:16
put that in the the comment. Right? You can come up with your own,

00:54:20
pseudonym like we all have, or you can just put

00:54:23
anonymous. That works great too. Yep. Alright. So to wrap up

00:54:27
this season, I'd like to ask a future looking

00:54:31
question. Where do you each see yourself a year from now?

00:54:36
In a year from now, I am gonna

00:54:39
be Much happier,

00:54:43
more successful, and

00:54:47
more creative. No. That's that's a tough act to

00:54:50
follow. I think because that's our cast. All the good

00:54:54
synonyms. All of those, that's me.

00:54:58
A year from now, I'm I'm

00:55:02
hoping that I'm still in this super grateful,

00:55:08
mood that I'm in, that the

00:55:11
podcast has touched even more lives, helped

00:55:15
Others out there and

00:55:20
professionally, just doing my. No. I'm

00:55:24
I'm super, super fortunate to get to do the job that I do right now.

00:55:27
So Great answer. What about you, Bizzle?

00:55:31
Oh, where do I see myself in a year? Yeah. Oh,

00:55:35
turning the tables. Oh, how the turntables.

00:55:42
I mean, I have to be honest. I'm I'm enjoying

00:55:46
life Pretty much right now, you know, I have Are you fucking with me?

00:55:49
No. I'm I'm like Wow. I'm like, you know, I have a job I

00:55:53
really like, You know, happy, healthy

00:55:57
family. We're doing good work on the podcast.

00:56:00
I really enjoy that. I'm doing some music stuff, which I

00:56:04
really enjoy.

00:56:08
Yeah. I think just mostly just continuing to kinda like you

00:56:12
said, G Rex, stay in that really positive mindset And,

00:56:16
just weeding out anything that's a distractor

00:56:20
and continue to improve on the things that I'm I'm really

00:56:23
enjoying and getting, You know, high emotional return

00:56:27
on. Yeah. That that should be important.

00:56:31
Awake? No. Awake and not crying. Awake and not crying. At a

00:56:35
bare minimum, I'm awake and not crying.

00:56:44
It's okay to be not okay. Just make sure you're talking to

00:56:47
someone.