Catching Up with Crazy Eight - Retirement and Self-Care

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Welcome back, fellow listeners,

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to another episode of shit that goes on in our heads. We

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are doing a fun one. It's a ketchup,

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not like the sauce that you put on fries, but

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it's a catch up with Crazy 8.

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Are you ready, G Rex? I am. I'm ready. I'm so

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excited that he's back. Me too. Everybody I have to tell you,

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even today, coworkers of mine, because we're having a little bit of a stressful

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week, said to me, I need to listen to Crazy Eights

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episode again. And they did.

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Ain't that cool? Yeah. And I listened to the episode again on

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Wednesday also because, I had kind of a stressful day.

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But, yeah, that is, like, my, Like, my number 1 all time

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favorite episode. Oh, wow. Well, it's,

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I don't know what to say. Yeah.

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Okay. I don't wanna get my head too big

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because then I won't fit through the doorway. But, no.

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No. I I I that's I don't know. I I I

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feel honored When when I hear those things,

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you know, I, I retired.

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Know, I think we I mentioned that last time. It's not because,

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anything about, you know, the field and and, you

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know, the work. It was just

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it got to the time where you feel that, you know, it's

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I've done Pretty much everything that I needed to

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do, and I wanted to leave a legacy.

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So, And it came to that point where I stepped

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back. You know? And trust me. If I if they've been trying

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to get me back to work. But,

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And I've had other job offers as well,

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which is, you know, something that I appreciate. You know?

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It's it's, It's very humbling.

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But no. You know, yeah, I I retired. I'm I'm still

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retired. I'm not planning on going back to work, as of

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today, and I'm and I'm having

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a good time. I'm so excited. I I I would I

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know you were really getting excited about your retirement and, like,

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the things that you were gonna do with your garden and just things around the

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house. Mhmm. I I'm super excited that you got to do

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that. Yeah. Well, I'm still in the process. You

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know? It's, it's kind of,

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and I I'm I'm so I'm sure you experienced the same thing. It's it's been

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an adjustment, from, you know, Working,

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you know, you know, 40 hours a week and then

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suddenly, you know, like, you don't have a schedule. You

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know, you just Get to one place or the other no matter what

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whatever time it is, and, so it's been

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an adjustment for me. Especially one of the things that I've noticed is you You

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kinda lose track of the days.

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So, yeah, if you have a an appointment, it's, it's easier to miss

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it. I I totally

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I totally understand that. I was talking on Dirty Skittles about a month ago,

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You know, because I kept getting up, like, super early, and I'm like, I'm

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retired. Like, retirees are supposed to be able to sleep till, 9, 10

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o'clock in the morning. Oh, it doesn't work. Instead, I was getting up at, like,

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7 o'clock every day. Well, now, you know, I'm not going back to

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work in, 2 we? On 17th.

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Yeah. So now, like, I'm sleeping until 11 o'clock in the morning. Like,

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that's good. And this is exactly what she said. She's like, as soon as you

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get ready to go back to work, that's when it's gonna happen. But,

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you know, I I'm excited. The the 4 the 4 months

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that I had off or the 3 this is April,

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May, 2, most of July. Well, three and a half months that I had

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off, I was I think my body needed it

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just to recoup from, like, all the stress

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and everything else that was going on, But it also allowed

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me to really work on our podcast and get everything done that we

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needed to get done so that when I do go back to work, everything's already

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set up for us. Mhmm. And I'm humbled

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beyond belief with just the sheer number of

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people that are listening to us. I'm I'm thankful to every single one of Our

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guests, every one of our listeners, it's a very

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humbling experience, and I I'm probably the happiest

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I've ever been. That's great. That's great.

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Yeah. It's a life is more about that

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than the other deflections that we get. You know, it's,

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it's it's you you're gonna have a lot of irrationality

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in you know, among our species. You're gonna have,

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you know, discrepancies and arguments. You know? We're

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humans. History has shown us that. You know?

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But I think if we're kinder to each other,

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the discrepancies would become less violent.

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I completely agree with that. That that is you

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know, there's just so much hate going on right now, and I

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just I wish everybody would just take a step back and, you know,

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kinda think before you speak it. That it would make this world

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a much better place. Yeah. And, you know, and logic

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has to play a role. You know, it it's

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okay to disagree or have anger, have

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hate, but when you personalize it

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Against another individual, that's a whole different

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story. You know? That that is something that's

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more intense, you know, and and,

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and if it's an individual that has influence,

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you know, It affects other individuals also. So,

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you know, the look. That's one of the things that I,

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When I was in the field, a lot of my clients,

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I I I it was I always tried to ground

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them into the reality Based on

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logic and facts. You know? And

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and that's you have to base yourself

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because your mind is designed to create,

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and it creates things that are based on Facts, and

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it'll create things that are based on fantasy.

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It's when you react on the irrational or the

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illogic That you get into trouble.

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Yeah. Some people are better at

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explaining logic than others. And so when you have, you

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know, what somebody would consider a very logical thought process

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and you're trying to work with somebody who's not logical, or

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maybe they're thinking out of passion. It's conflict. How do you get

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past that? Like, it's super frustrating.

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Well, you know, logic also is based on on

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fact. You know? You know,

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is it is it logical to jump out of a perfectly fine

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plane? Is it on fire?

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You know, it's not money But if you jump out of the woods. Do it.

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You know? The military does it. You know? But they

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just don't do it Out of risk, there's

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logic and basics and data and facts

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that go behind the system that they have.

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And one of the things that I always encounter in the field was that

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when a person has that Passion.

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Mhmm. It's difficult for them to,

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decipher fact From

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opinion. Mhmm. Yeah.

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And, you know, opinion is just that.

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You know? Burgers are better than taco.

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Yeah. Yeah. It's it depends on the individual.

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Hot dog is a sandwich. But when I would ask them, you know, give me

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an example of a fact,

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a percentage of them had difficulty Giving me an

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example. And the basic example I would always give them, I

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would grab a pen and just drop it on the ground and say

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gravity. If I bring everybody in this building in

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here and I have them do the same thing, I guarantee you, we're

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gonna get the same result. The pen will hit the floor.

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That's a fact. Cannot be disputed.

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However, some people can have the opinion

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that, well, It's not hitting in the same spot.

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Or you didn't lift it high enough. Right? That's what I was Or

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maybe you fling that. Yeah. The fact

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is gravity, not your opinion.

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That reminds me of a hole that I could dive into about

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testing that was done in a court case where a guy was throwing a cell

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phone. It's a long story, but to

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sidetrack on that, I mean, the company

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that G Rex and I used to work for,

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we had a test that they did during new hire orientation, which I thought was

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In the moment, I didn't understand why the test was happening, but it later

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made a lot of sense. And the test was basically designed to tell

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you a little bit about yourself and how you react under stress

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and just your natural state of being and and, you know Personality assessment.

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Yeah. And, You know, I was

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answering the questions as honestly as I possibly could. And

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when I got the test, when the results came back, I was shocked

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because I would have guessed after you take the

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assessment, they tell you what the colors mean and all this stuff, and I for

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sure was dead set, oh, I'm gonna be this color. And when

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the test came back, I was equal in all 4.

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And I thought, oh, that's not what I would have expected. And then as you

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flip through the document, it tells you during

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stress, you are this color, and that was the

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color I thought. And that was really eye opening for me because

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I've I realized in that moment, in a normal

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day, not a stressful day, I do have a hard time making,

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rash decisions or quick decisions because,

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logically, I'm taking into account multiple

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pieces. So I have to put a pause, I have to take a break, and

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I have to think about it. And that becomes very difficult because depending on who

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you're working with, if they're a certain color that

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you're not. Even logically, I understand why you want me to

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do this thing because you operate in this sector. But for

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me, there's more to it than just that one color. But it also taught me

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that my natural what I thought my natural state of being was being

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stressed and operating out of survival mode. And

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it was just super eye opening, and I wish we could take that again after

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years later to see if our results are still the same. And

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it and it's funny because, like, when I took the test, I kinda

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already knew what I was. I I I know that I'm highly

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creative, and I I know that when I get passionate, I get

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super emotional too. So when I'm stressed out, I get to

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be that red color because I get super press passionate

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about something. I'm still a little creative, but I get

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passionate. I get really emotional. And

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because I was I I was so passionate about what I did,

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a lot of times, it was hard for me to see other people's opinions

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Because I knew I was right. Mhmm.

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And sometimes I wasn't right, but It was hard to get that

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across because I couldn't I couldn't put the brakes on

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the the emotion part the emotional part of it. I've been better with

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that. I'm telling you, retirement, sabbatical, whatever you wanna call

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it, it's allowed me to do a couple of things.

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Number 1, I practice a lot more self love and self care now than I

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ever did in my entire career. And I'm

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doing things that make me happy and don't make other people

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happy. Mhmm. And I I I think that as we as

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I edge myself back into the workforce, I need to remember that.

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Right? Like, we live once.

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We need to make ourselves happy. We're we're not dependent on anybody else

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to make us happy. Mhmm. And we are dependent on making sure that we

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are Taking care of ourselves, and then we are loving ourselves.

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So I I've already, like, started a journal on this,

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and, I've told my and dirty skills.

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Like, I'm writing a whole book on my whole what

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happened Between October and then coming out on the other side of

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this. And I've opened up, like,

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so many doors in my head. Like,

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I still have a little bit of writer's block on 1 section that I still

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need to write. It it may take me a couple months to get past that.

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But it made me realize, like, being an

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empath and working in customer service,

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It was I did myself a huge disservice. Right? So I

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took on everybody else's problems and

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issues, and I didn't take enough care of myself. So

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my takeaway from from all of that is I'm

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number 1. I need to take care of me. And for

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anybody that, you know, is in the working world or, You know, working

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in a customer service job or service job, make sure you're

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taking care of yourself. Yeah. I used to,

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Do an exercise with my clients,

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with, tennis balls. And,

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basically, I would have them For everything

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that they did. For example, like, you were talking about your your

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personal life, your your job, You're, you know,

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taking care of this, taking care of that. For each one of those

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events is 1 golf ball, You know, 1

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tennis ball, and they had to juggle. You know, you can do

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okay with 1 or 2. Now you start putting 3, becomes a

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little bit difficult. You get 4 unless you have

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practice. You're not gonna get it. It's telling you,

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you're you're taking on too much. Really? You're taking

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on too much, and you have to prioritize as

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well. You know? It's, if you're not

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well, you can't take care of anybody.

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Nerdy Schittles, I want you to come back and listen to this

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Part 15 times a week. Yeah. I mean, you said this the last

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time I think we chatted because it sounds familiar. Well, yeah, the

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it's and there's a difference also, like, in in your case.

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You know, I'm retired. But in my case,

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again, Personal issues when you're working with

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a team, and I understand kind of

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the assessment you guys were doing because I've I've had those done.

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The assessment is just for recognition of what's happening.

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Mhmm. It's not a solution to what's happening. Mhmm.

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So, normally, as I when I worked as a consultant,

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You know, after this, you know, you would debrief and say, hey. You

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know, this is what's happening. Mhmm. Now you gotta come up with a

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solution. That's where the team building exercises come in.

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You know? Because, yeah, everybody has

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gonna have different colors and issues and emotions,

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but you are working. Basically, you're

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on a canoe, and and each one of you have a paddle.

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Your destination is over there.

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If you're not all paddling the same way, you're not gonna get

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there, And it has nothing to do with personality. You have to

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take pride in that goal. You know?

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And if if it's my team against another team, we're

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gonna kick their ass. You know?

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We can we can disagree about the all the other stuff, but when it

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comes to the task, we gotta get there. But that takes team

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building, And and the team building starts with

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recognition to which is what that assessment does. Now

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everybody knows Here's our thing, and everybody

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needs to be recognized for those things in order

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to feel respected And to have some type

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of integrity and then move on. Now we're gonna

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do the team building. Now we're gonna get together and put a plan on

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how we are going to make this happen, and we're all

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gonna agree on it. And there's no gonna be you know, if There needs to

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be a deviation as we go. We agree we're gonna do

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that. No worries. It's not etched in stone

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Because you never know the problems they're gonna overcome. You

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only can do what is logical based on the data that you

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know. Yeah.

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Man, that's hitting so hard for me right now.

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It's Yeah. I'm sorry. No. No. No. No. That's

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it's No. No. Crazy 8, do not be sorry. These are the words

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these are the exact words that Dirty needs to hear right

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now, so please keep keep doing it. And I'm just

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absorbing this because I'm gonna need this in, about 10

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days. Well, you know, you know, if it helps anybody,

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that's that's great. But, yeah, you know, again,

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I've I've been in the field psychology for over

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27 years, and and

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I've worked with institutions and organizations, And

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I've been involved with those kind of organizations, and and, you know,

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in in many of those organizations, I did my

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time and left Because, again, they

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were not wanting to grasp that concept.

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And, you know, in my field, we're

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you know, business is business, and I understand that. I have

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nothing against business, but me as a

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provider, a care provider in mental health,

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I took care of my clients. I was

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not looking at so much at the business aspect. I

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was looking at their health aspect. And

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if I was working with an organization that

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didn't, you know, share my views, You know, I would, you know,

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complete my contract and move on to the next.

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So but, yeah, that's I understand, you know,

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those concepts when when things happen. Yeah.

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Yeah. I mean, everything you're saying is spot on. I mean, it

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is I think one of the biggest struggles that I have, and I don't know,

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if anybody else can relate, is when you are in a

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business. There is a there is a

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very it has to be balance. There has to be a

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balance between the needs of the company

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and the people that are gonna get you there.

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Mhmm. And whenever that scale is tipped one

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way or another. As a

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leader, it becomes

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incredibly difficult to keep that

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level head. Right? Mhmm.

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Without saying too much. It it is. It it's hard to

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to find the logic and and a way to rationalize and a way to

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make it work. And and I find myself having to to tap into

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the creative side and and figure out a way that I'm gonna be

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able to succeed. Because you're right, there is a goal. Mhmm.

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And, you know, the people I work with, we have that same goal in mind.

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It's it's just I mean, it's really hard. It is. It

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is. I mean, in the military, I

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mean, there were times that, You know,

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you you have to learn to

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adapt, improvise, and overcome,

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You know, because you might be in a situation where

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nobody's coming to rescue you. You have a mission.

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You have a task To complete. You

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know? And and you went out there with, you know, the gear

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and the equipment necessary to accomplish that task.

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You know, you ran into an obstacle. You

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can't, you know, call 911, you

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know, The 1800 rescue me because that's not gonna

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happen. You know? You have to, at that moment,

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make your best decision

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Based on the knowledge and the wisdom that

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you have about the task that you have to accomplish.

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You know? Yeah. That's those situations are gonna occur. Yeah.

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So I have a question for both. 1st

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for Dirty Skittles and then for Crazy 8. So

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Dirty Skittles, I I I know that, like, lately, you've

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been Kind of, like, all

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over the place. So I wanted to know what you're doing lately To put

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it nice For self love and self care. Because

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though I'm gonna tell you, like, when you don't practice those

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2, it comes back to bite you in the ass, Like, a 100%.

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What? I think and I'm gonna be a 100% vulnerable and

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honest. I think I've forgotten to do that for for a minute, and

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it actually didn't dawn on me until you asked me that question right now.

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Because I noticed the other day,

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I couldn't focus on something that normally

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I would jump at and be completely passionate on and, like, know exactly

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what I was gonna do or whatever direction, and I found myself not

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having that drive or direction and not really knowing

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why. But I think it's because I haven't You know, I share with you a

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lot of how my day to day goes because we're that close and stuff.

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And normally, it's like when I'm done my workday,

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that time kept extending out to when I was gonna be done. And then, you

00:24:50
know, personal life comes in, and there's something else going on, so there hasn't been

00:24:53
me time, and I I need to get back to it. So to answer your

00:24:56
question, I haven't been doing shit, bro. Okay.

00:25:00
So just my personal advice to you is

00:25:04
find that time. Oh, yeah. Make sure make sure you you try and

00:25:08
do, like, do something for self love

00:25:12
daily. Right? I don't care if it's, like, get up and walk around your desk

00:25:15
5 minutes. Yep. But just get up because it helps you get out of

00:25:19
your head. I I just don't want you to fall into the same pitfalls

00:25:23
and crap that I felt fell into because it happens

00:25:27
a lot faster Then you think it would. Easy to lose track

00:25:31
of it. It is. It's it's super easy to lose sight.

00:25:34
So for Crazy 8, Now that you're retired,

00:25:38
like, are you making sure that you're doing self love and self care?

00:25:42
Oh, yeah. Yes. It's actually, I've it's increased

00:25:45
for me because it's something that

00:25:50
I wanted to do more regularly, but because of my job. You

00:25:53
know, I could only, you know, go to the gym only twice a

00:25:57
week. I couldn't do any meditation or breathing

00:26:01
exercises because, you know, I I was working. You know? By the time I came

00:26:04
home, you know, 6 o'clock at in the evening,

00:26:09
dealing with idiots, you know, you

00:26:13
you get you get home, and the last thing you wanna feel like is,

00:26:17
should, yeah, should I go now? So I I I had to force

00:26:21
my when I was working, I was forcing myself going to the gym at 5

00:26:25
o'clock in the morning, You know, to get there, get an exercise, and

00:26:29
that can only do it twice a week, you know, because then my

00:26:32
commitment, you know, at work, occupied the rest of the

00:26:36
time. But now that I'm not there, Yeah.

00:26:39
Now I, you know, I go to I'm going to the gym 4 times a

00:26:43
week. I I'm bringing my wife with me.

00:26:47
I'm training her, you know, because she wants to get some nice

00:26:51
legs, so we're working on that. Missus Crazy 8.

00:26:55
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And and I'm a led guy. So

00:26:59
Alright. Ew. Yeah. So

00:27:03
yeah. So Get a

00:27:06
room. Doing doing that, you know,

00:27:10
Practicing a lot of the meditation,

00:27:14
and breathing exercises, which has helped me significantly

00:27:18
to lose weight. You know?

00:27:21
So, yeah, I'm I'm I'm taking care of myself.

00:27:26
Yeah. Cutting the lawn. Believe it or not, the thing

00:27:29
that's most therapeutic for me is cleaning bathrooms. Well,

00:27:33
I've got a couple. So I have 2 If you

00:27:37
wanna come up to And I think it's just, from,

00:27:41
probably PTSD from the military, you know, because there are places

00:27:45
that, we really didn't have bathrooms. We had,

00:27:49
like, a wooden box with a hole kinda thing.

00:27:53
So yeah. And, and there are other critters that

00:27:56
live there too. You know? Other

00:28:00
ones that came out of their body.

00:28:03
So, yeah, I it to me, cleaning

00:28:07
bathrooms is is is weird. My wife Loves it because she

00:28:11
doesn't have to do it, but to me, it's, yeah, that's it's

00:28:15
to me, it's therapeutic. And, you know, I'm gonna go back because they

00:28:19
do wanna give myself credit. So for

00:28:22
those that have been listening for a minute, you probably heard Jujube's

00:28:26
episode. And she had said something in there towards the end where it

00:28:30
was like envision the person you wanna be and figure out what you need to

00:28:33
get there. And and for her, that was to be strong. Right? And so after

00:28:36
that episode, I I signed up for, a a

00:28:40
fitness challenge. It was a 30 day challenge. And if anybody

00:28:44
knows me, I hate physical fitness.

00:28:48
Like, I I don't ever get, like, the vibe where I'm, like,

00:28:52
oh, I feel great now. Like, it's finally here. It's kicked in or whatever. But

00:28:56
towards and I was dedicated. I had to do it every day because I'm a

00:28:59
very extreme person in that aspect. So after the 30 day

00:29:03
fitness challenge, my parents and my husband and stuff were noticing,

00:29:07
oh, yeah, you're losing weight. And for me, I can't use a

00:29:10
scale that nobody out there is like me. Like, I just can't because I'm

00:29:14
not gonna get the reward that I want, and then I'll quit. So

00:29:18
I haven't been using the scale, but I've noticed my clothes fit

00:29:22
looser and, like, things like that. So I then after the 30 days

00:29:25
was up, I started a 42 day challenge. And every

00:29:29
almost every week, I would say, Jujube and I message each other back

00:29:33
and forth. And she checks in on me every once in a while, hey, how's

00:29:36
it going? And, like, you know, for 4th July, I had a hotdog and

00:29:40
a hamburger, and I felt really guilty about it. And I and

00:29:43
I messaged with her, and she walked me off the ledge. And so, Yeah. You

00:29:47
know, I guess that is a little bit of self

00:29:51
love, but I I guess I don't necessarily go to that place when you ask

00:29:54
that question because I fucking hate working out,

00:29:57
man. I hate it with a passion. I fucking hate it, but I'm

00:30:01
liking what I'm seeing so far. So But aren't you gardening

00:30:05
and doing other things too? But that's because I wanna eat.

00:30:09
So I'm gardening without it's, you know, shit I'm gonna

00:30:13
eat later. You know, bringing the weight, the the the

00:30:16
scale thing up is is a good point. You know? It's because

00:30:20
it's not about the weight. It's how you want your body to

00:30:24
look. You know? It doesn't matter. You

00:30:27
know? I've seen, you know,

00:30:32
Bodybuilders, women bodybuilders that you know?

00:30:35
Yeah. And they're, you know, 59, and they're at

00:30:38
180, 190, but they're just Muscle. Muscle fiber.

00:30:42
I know. It's don't worry about the numbers. The

00:30:46
numbers are are are useless. Plus, they become a

00:30:49
negative reinforcer Mhmm. Because you are already

00:30:54
suffering From that whole stigma of

00:30:57
being overweight and this and this and that and how people gonna view

00:31:01
you. Screw the numbers. Do whatever is

00:31:04
necessary to get the body to look the way you want it.

00:31:08
Yep. Period. You know? If you don't have to go and hit the weights,

00:31:12
You know, swimming, yoga.

00:31:16
You know? Believe it or not, that thing will kick your

00:31:19
butt. I did Pilates one time, and I I

00:31:23
almost broke the hip. You know? It's like, this stuff is

00:31:26
tough. You know? And you'd see it like it looks like nothing. You

00:31:30
know? So, you know, and I and I consider myself to be in pretty good

00:31:34
condition. But, yeah, don't worry about the

00:31:38
the scale. You know, that is useless. You

00:31:42
know? Some people just with just restricting your

00:31:45
diet from the bad stuff, You know, if you cut the

00:31:49
oils and the salts out, just that, you know, it

00:31:53
it helps your metabolism a bit, You know? And and

00:31:57
it helps your body get rid of some of the bad

00:32:00
stuff that's in there. Yeah. Yeah. And that's, you know, that's

00:32:04
funny because now that I've been, you know, not working, I'm not

00:32:08
stressing. Right? So we were when we were in Europe,

00:32:12
There happened to be a scale in one of the hotel rooms,

00:32:15
and, my wife was, like, commenting, like, How could

00:32:19
I look? So I just happen to, like, weigh myself. I was down to, like,

00:32:23
162. I can't remember the last time I was 162. I

00:32:27
haven't weighed myself since, But I just feel good. Like, I'm not eating a

00:32:31
that's all that matters. Yeah. I'm not eating a box of Pop Tarts today.

00:32:34
So what if he do? A bag of Not

00:32:38
downing everything as a Twizzlers every day. I'm like I'm

00:32:42
getting out and doing things and walking around the house. And,

00:32:46
Thankfully, you know, the house is pretty big, so I get about 3 miles a

00:32:49
day just walking in the house. That sounds like Bizzle.

00:32:53
Bizzle, since moving to Georgia, has however many flights

00:32:56
of stairs and, you know, that's his workout.

00:33:02
Yeah. But, you know, I'm kinda hoping that I can just keep that up, you

00:33:05
know, once I start back. Right? What just eating

00:33:08
healthier, being happier. Like It's preparation.

00:33:12
Mhmm. You know, no stress was amazing.

00:33:17
We'll have to check back in with you once you start, see how it's going.

00:33:20
Mhmm. I I'm I'm excited because it's a different type

00:33:24
of job. Yeah. It's I'm not even gonna call it a job. I'm gonna call

00:33:27
it knowledge transfer. That's what it is. Because at this at this point in

00:33:31
my life, that's kinda what it is. I'm

00:33:35
only gonna you know, I don't know how how much longer I'm gonna work. You

00:33:38
know, I'm loving doing the podcast. This is my my version

00:33:42
of therapy. It's it's free. I get to talk to my best friend. We talk

00:33:46
to really cool people. Yeah. And

00:33:50
it and it took off, and that amazed

00:33:53
me more than anything else in in the world.

00:33:57
Like, there's people out there actually listening to us, and it it warms my heart.

00:34:01
And somebody I talked to yesterday said that they actually

00:34:05
when they After they're done listening to us, they walk away feeling

00:34:09
better. And so I know that

00:34:13
What our mission was is actually happening. I I get I get to see

00:34:17
the fruition of it, and, nothing makes me

00:34:20
happier. Yeah. Improvement,

00:34:24
not perfection. Yeah. Yet there's no perfection

00:34:28
here. No. It's subjective. You know, what's perfect for 1

00:34:32
person doesn't make it perfect for the rest of the world.

00:34:35
Yeah. That's and and love us This one would like love

00:34:39
us to be perfect, but that's not gonna happen. But we've gotten much better about

00:34:43
not calling each other real names. So Yeah.

00:34:46
Improvement. If if we can do better yeah. If you have

00:34:50
a better day today than yesterday, that's improvement.

00:34:54
That's it. You know? I'm I'm grateful

00:34:57
that I'm able to sit up and take nourishment,

00:35:01
you know, because, I've had friends that are

00:35:05
that were half my age now, and and they're no longer with me.

00:35:09
You know? So they it's, yeah, it's

00:35:13
important, You know, to take care of yourself,

00:35:17
and and make sure that, you know, you have that

00:35:21
balance. There you gonna have we all gonna have bad days. That that's

00:35:25
inevitable. You know? It's it's part of life.

00:35:29
You know? We're we're gonna run into some idiot, You know,

00:35:32
sooner or later, you know, someone is gonna cut you off

00:35:36
on a highway. You know? It it's All of those things are

00:35:40
gonna happen. Don't take it personal. You know? It's

00:35:43
okay to be angry at the moment because trust me, You know, when they cut

00:35:47
in front of me in the highway. I think it's

00:35:51
Yeah. You know, some things come out of my mouth that surprises

00:35:55
people, But I don't go chasing the

00:35:59
guy down the road 3 miles. Right. This ain't Florida.

00:36:02
Just kidding. So yeah. I don't you know, there's

00:36:06
a difference. But, you know, it's okay to be angry

00:36:10
about certain things, But don't take it personal. You

00:36:13
know? It just it's not worth it. Life is much

00:36:17
more beautiful and much more important at that moment, At

00:36:20
that place at that time. So true.

00:36:24
And, you know, I'm like, I just look at you, and I I

00:36:28
listened to you, and I'm I'm just I'm so thankful that you've come on for

00:36:31
a 2nd time. Well, thank you for having me. Because

00:36:35
a lot of A lot of what you talk about just really resonates with

00:36:39
me because in a couple weeks, I'm gonna turn 60. How the hell did

00:36:43
that happen? I have no idea. It's

00:36:46
another adventure. Lot of people. I don't know. It's been an adventure. I'm gonna

00:36:50
be. Yeah. It's another adventure. You know? That's that's how I look

00:36:54
at it. You know? And and I always remember, you

00:36:58
know, something that my grandfather used to tell me. He said, you know,

00:37:01
when you leave, You don't get to take anything with you but

00:37:05
your memories, so make sure that you get enough

00:37:09
memories with you. So, yeah, that's what I've

00:37:13
what I'm doing now, creating new memories.

00:37:16
Yeah. Experiences. I feel like, g rex, you've said that

00:37:20
before where it's like, I can't take this stuff with me, but I can take

00:37:23
the memories and the experiences. Take the memories, the experience. Like, the

00:37:27
3 weeks we spent in, Europe. Right?

00:37:32
That was an experience that I never thought I was gonna get to

00:37:35
do. I would do it again in a heartbeat. It was

00:37:40
those memories. Right? Life is about making memories. It's not about making

00:37:44
money. Yes. We need money to live. We need money to eat,

00:37:48
but make those memories because that's the shit that counts

00:37:52
Mhmm. At the end of the day. That's what counts. That you work to live.

00:37:56
You don't live to work. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. You'll never see a

00:37:59
Wells Fargo, truck being part of a funeral.

00:38:08
Put that on a T shirt. Now stat.

00:38:12
You know, I was kind of jokingly, but not like, I'm I'm sort

00:38:16
of being serious. As you guys are talking about this, I the

00:38:20
first thought that popped into my mind is, like, is this why, like, your

00:38:23
grandparents will tell you the same story over and over and over again? Because

00:38:27
it was an experience that they had that they wanna share. And I

00:38:31
find myself doing that because I do not really like to

00:38:34
post on social media about what I'm doing or what's happening in my life. Like,

00:38:38
I like to be in the moment and sort of just absorb it, but afterwards,

00:38:41
I wanna tell everybody about it. And I feel like besides my

00:38:45
words, I don't have anything to show other than this is my very real

00:38:49
memory of this awesome thing that happened that nobody's gonna believe is real?

00:38:54
I'm not on social media.

00:38:59
Sorry. Hold on. Pause a second. What? What are you doing?

00:39:03
Sorry. I thought drizzle The producer's making signals.

00:39:06
Wasn't he? He was, like, getting this weird look. I'm like, what? What is what

00:39:10
am I missing? He Oh. He he put a note out

00:39:14
in the chat. I knew you did something. What did he say?

00:39:18
He says this episode brought to you by Wells Fargo, the best

00:39:22
way to bank in the in this life and

00:39:26
the next one.

00:39:33
Free that was free advertisement, by the way. No.

00:39:36
We can't do that, Willes Fargo. You can't. We can't do that.

00:39:40
He's like, have crazy hate to hate so we can use it as a fake

00:39:43
promo. No, dude. You can't do that. Hey. If you wanna cut that

00:39:47
part, we can edit it, and I'll say it's an armored car.

00:39:53
Oh my word. Those are the funny

00:39:57
these are the funny moments of life that you always gotta have. I know. That's

00:40:00
right. I I I'm telling you, you look amazing. Oh, thank you. Thank

00:40:04
you. He looked amazing the first time, but he just looked so much more

00:40:08
relaxed and Yeah. Chill when

00:40:12
speaking happy. Yeah. It's you know, you again,

00:40:16
being the psychologist, you know, you can't get the stuff once you

00:40:19
learn it, and you Can't put the genie back in the bottle, but, you

00:40:23
know, I I keep finding myself you

00:40:26
know, reminding myself where what stage of life I am in.

00:40:30
You know, where am I there, and what are the things that are supposed to

00:40:33
happen? And I'm like, why do I keep doing that? Why do I keep doing

00:40:37
that? You know? And the other day, I'm just

00:40:41
like, you know what? I'm gonna make the commitment. I'm not gonna think about this

00:40:44
stuff anymore. Oh. And, yeah,

00:40:48
so it it still pops up, but it's, like,

00:40:51
I was getting obsessed with it, you know, to a point that, like, It was

00:40:55
it was affecting my emotion. It was like, oh, why

00:40:59
you know, I'm healthy. I'm not gonna die.

00:41:03
You know? I'm not doing anything risky. You know, I'm I

00:41:07
was going through that whole stage because, again,

00:41:11
The logic and the in, you know, the information that's

00:41:15
in my head, and finding myself, You

00:41:19
know, now with freedom of time, I was able

00:41:23
to get focus on this thing and say, you know, maybe I need to do

00:41:26
all these things. Like, No. I'm not gonna go skydiving.

00:41:30
That's crazy. Why do I need to go skydiving at

00:41:34
this time? You know? It was like, oh, then maybe diving. And

00:41:38
I'm like, no. I'm not going diving. My crazy

00:41:42
nephew, we were gonna go to Vietnam there for a second.

00:41:45
Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I I gotta put brakes on this stuff here.

00:41:49
You know? It's, you know, I think I got a lot more

00:41:53
time. You know? My grandfather died at a 103.

00:41:56
So Wow. I got good genes. We

00:42:00
do. 30 schedules. That means you're gonna live forever. That's

00:42:03
fine. I'm fine with that. I still look like I'm 21.

00:42:07
Right? Speaking of looks, wait, can we just

00:42:10
segue we just segue into, like, a really funny well, I think it's funny what

00:42:14
happened today. So the I mentioned that I had a coworker who said, man,

00:42:17
you know, we've had a rough week. I need to go back and listen to

00:42:20
Crazy 8th episode. And so I told him, yeah. You know, I was talking to

00:42:23
my dad this morning, and he made the mistake of asking me how everything was

00:42:26
going. And so I made a joke. I was like, I had, like, a 45

00:42:29
minute event sesh with Crazy 8. And, somehow we got

00:42:32
into it, and he I said, you know, have you seen what he looks

00:42:36
like? Because we're friends on social media, this this person and I. And he's like,

00:42:39
no. And I'm like, what do you think he looks like based on the episode

00:42:42
that you've listened to? And this is what he had to say. I

00:42:46
envision him to be north of 6 feet tall.

00:42:49
Physically fit, but not too bulky. Salt and pepper

00:42:53
hair, gotta have glasses, and a firm but unassuming

00:42:57
kind of older Robert Langdon vibe before Tom

00:43:01
Hanks. I was like, no. Not

00:43:04
quite. But I thought that was funny because based on what he's heard of

00:43:07
you, that's where his mind went. It was like, it's gotta be this

00:43:11
person over 6 feet tall and, like, all this stuff.

00:43:15
And so I shared a picture, and he was like, oh, perfect.

00:43:19
Oh, you shared a picture of me? Yeah. Cool. I just thought that was funny.

00:43:22
Sorry. That's what happened. I think he should sign it.

00:43:26
Oh, yeah. We gotta get autographs. Yeah. Yeah.

00:43:30
I let me know. I just really appreciate you. You're just so

00:43:34
candid, and, like, you're always willing to, like, you know, talk us

00:43:37
through, like, Just some stuff that that happens to be going on.

00:43:41
You know, I'm I'm excited to see, you know, where I am 6 months from

00:43:44
now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I think we should all be doing

00:43:48
the same. You know? Me and my

00:43:52
wife the other day were talking about, you know, when we were when we were

00:43:55
youngsters. You know? You know?

00:43:59
He's got some sketchy stories, y'all. The the, you know,

00:44:03
neighborhoods were different. You know? You you knew your

00:44:06
neighbor. Your neighbor watched out for you. You watched out for

00:44:10
the neighbor. You know? Everybody down the street knew each other. You

00:44:14
know? And it seems like we've gotten

00:44:18
so far away from that that now it's

00:44:21
like They don't even wanna look at the neighbor's house.

00:44:25
You know? It's, yeah, it's it's kinda strange, and it's one

00:44:29
of those things that We need to take care of each other. You know?

00:44:33
Don't forget, you know, to contact your family and, you

00:44:37
know, let them know you're still alive. You know,

00:44:41
you know, it's don't just call when things are bad

00:44:45
or when, you know, you're in an emergency. You know, let them

00:44:48
know that you're still there, and it's, you

00:44:52
know, it's rewarding. It's it's your part

00:44:56
in on this planet. Speaking of taking care of

00:44:59
each other, I feel like now is a perfect time to share with everybody

00:45:04
my favorite, what do you call this?

00:45:07
Something that somebody said. My yeah. One of my

00:45:11
favorite quotes. The something that somebody

00:45:15
said. Cut that part out. Let me do that okay. Speaking of

00:45:19
wait. Wait. Wait. He's keeping it, and producer's like, no. It's staying. But, no, seriously,

00:45:24
As you guys are talking, I was trying to remember things that make me

00:45:28
feel good, like, especially in a time where it's crazy, I'm

00:45:31
overwhelmed, and, like, I am not doing the self love that I need to

00:45:35
be doing, and I'm just burnt out. And

00:45:38
I remembered, and I've remembered this quote since I was little,

00:45:42
so that's how much of an impact it has on me. And I heard it

00:45:45
on Oprah, and it is by, somebody called his name is

00:45:49
Patrick Overton. And it says, when you come

00:45:52
to the edge of all the light you know and are about to step off

00:45:55
into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing 1 of 2 things

00:45:59
will happen. 1, there will be something solid for you to stand

00:46:03
on, or 2, you will be taught how to fly.

00:46:22
It's okay to be not okay. Just make sure you're talking to

00:46:26
someone.